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That is NOT the solution. Unless we are talking about a total gun ban and confiscation and closing our borders completely, then it’s not going to work.
You're saying there's no way to reduce the chances of kids getting their hands on guns? Nonsense. For starters, raise the age to buy all guns to 21. Maybe the age for semi-auto guns should be even higher. Will it stop all kids from getting their hands on guns? No, but it will help. The Florida shooter was 19 and legally owned his guns. The cops evidently knew the kid well, but had no legal ground to confiscate his weapons. That is a problem.
More guns is not the answer. How is it a free society if everywhere we go we see armed people. It’s a paranoid society. And paranoid people can also be unstable
Hmm.
A liberal rejects out of hand the only plan that has ever actually worked to reduce violence and shootings on schools, calls everybody names, and then blames gun rights advocates for not coming up with a plan she likes that will work.
Is it any wonder that we get nowhere? Unless we ignore liberals, of course?
A liberal rejects out of hand the only plan that has ever actually worked to reduce violence and shootings on schools, calls everybody names, and then blames gun rights advocates for not coming up with a plan she likes that will work.
Is it any wonder that we get nowhere? Unless we ignore liberals, of course?
Not a liberal for one. And I haven’t called anyone names nor have I blamed gun right advocates for not coming up with a plan.
You're saying there's no way to reduce the chances of kids getting their hands on guns? Nonsense. For starters, raise the age to buy all guns to 21. Maybe the age for semi-auto guns should be even higher. Will it stop all kids from getting their hands on guns? No, but it will help. The Florida shooter was 19 and legally owned his guns. The cops evidently knew the kid well, but had no legal ground to confiscate his weapons. That is a problem.
You’re making my point. The cops could have charged Cruz with something and he wouldn’t have passed his background check. Adam Lanza’s mom should have never had guns in her house, but she did and would have still been able to have them under your solution. And no one could charge her with a crime because she was killed. The military could have reported the family violence charges to the FBI for that guy in Sulpher Springs who shot up the church, but they forgot. There are all sorts of things that should have happened but didn’t.
That’s why I think we must advocate for metal detectors at schools. And gun violence restraining orders so family members could petition the court to remove guns from people they think are dangerous but don’t have a criminal record.
As several people have pointed out, some of the recent schools that have had shootings, had armed guards, who apparently didn't do much to stop those shootings.
OTOH there have been schools, churches etc. that also had armed guards, who DID stop shootings there.
BTW, how many such places had armed guards that a potential shooter noticed, and so he decided not to go there to do his murders? We'll never know all of them. Does anyone think the number is ZERO?
Off the top of my head, here is one example where armed guards thwarted a mass shooter. In August 1999, mass shooter Buford Furrow got a gun and drove to several Jewish centers in Los Angeles. But when he found armed guards at the first three, he turned around and left. Not until he found the North Valley Jewish Community Center and saw that it had no guards, did he walk inside and start shooting. Later he went to a Post Office which also had no guards, and shot an employee.
How many similar madmen planned attacks, but kept finding armed guards until they gave up their plans and wound up doing nothing? Not too many people who do that, talk about it later. But does that mean that there aren't any?
Armed guards don't have 100% records. But sometimes they do stop, or even prevent, school shootings. Can that be said about any other "gun control" scheme the gun controllers have been pushing?
But ...those "Gun Restrictions" never get passed! So we are left with more guns and ammo and ultimately, ... more mass shootings. Just how many guns did Obama confiscate? I want numbers!
"But ...those "Gun Restrictions" never get passed!"
I think the number of gun laws on the books is now OVER 2,000 so I guess your "never get passed" is flat out WRONG.
"Just how many guns did Obama confiscate?"
What does that have to do with ANYTHING?
I did NOT mention him so, wt bring him up.
But, being you DID, Obama TRIED to pass another so-called "assault weapons" ban which many dems would not support because after Clinton's they LOST a LOT of seats and even control of the House in congress.
"Democrats are well aware that they lost control of the House of Representatives in 1994, the year President Bill Clinton signed the original legislation, and have shied away from the issue of gun control, while Republican leaders have opposed the ban."
Not where I live. I haven't seen an armed security person anywhere but on an armored car picking up money. As for your comment about the media needing dead children to sell news---well, it's just ridiculous. They did all day coverage of the royal wedding yesterday and all I heard from the Right was bi*ching about that.
Our schools are---for the most part---public and that's what I was posting about as per the topic of this thread. But since you brought it up, a privately owned mall most likely can posted armed guards but it would probably make shoppers less likely to shop there, when they are reminded they'd be safer at home ordering off Amazon.
"probably"
Sorry, I DON'T deal in "probably", maybe, if, could, should etc.
Without; an estimate of number of school entrances in the US, the qualifications and pay for these 'armed guards, total cost, and how it will be paid for, this is just another half-baked right wing idea.
Not surprised a dem will spend MILLIONS on useless wasteful stuff but is NOT willing spend to protect our kids.
What ever happened to, "if it saves just 1 child, it IS worth it" we so many time from dems.
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