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I had 100% increase first year of ACA as my company was an "early adopter." Should I thank Obama? Should the American people still argue over who is president?
Or maybe take a LOOK AT THE ISSUE ITSELF????
You know, because the issue is a constant and presidents come and go??
Nah, that would be the smart thing to do. Address the issue.
It's just more fun to name call and blame "the other guy."
We should go to single payer. that is the fix. That would get the dem support. But not the GOP. Gop has no answers like allowing insurance companys to sell across state lines. Something the insurance industry itself said it had no interest in.
Germany has had Universal Healthcare since 1883. No two countries do Universal Healthcare the same way. Some are Single Payer. Some are completely private insurer pay. Most are a mixed bag.
Some require all employers to contribute. Some do not.
What they have in common is the individual mandate.
The rest of the developed world make annual adjustments and periodically reform their healthcare systems. They don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
75 % of US adults are overweight/ obese. As such, the population is substantially more vulnerable to heart disease, Diabetes and ensuing complications, stroke, some Cancers and joint deterioration. The US consumes far more than its fair share of mood altering and pain medications. It should come as no surprise the US spends more on healthcare.
The US doesnt spend more on healthcare primarily because it is so much sicker, but because the providers can get away with it. A for-profit system means price gouging on a massive scale, unnecessary treatments and sky high drug prices because the "consumer" is sick and desperate and dont have the correct information to make a sensible decision, while the providers have huge leverage over the "consumer". Its disgraceful that we allow our sick people to get steamrolled by a for-profit system that only care about money, not getting people healthy.
We dont need Medicare for all. Its a system that has many flaws and in my experience it stinks. For starters ,We need a health ins system that has buying power for drugs, yes. We need a medical system where hospitals are fair in their pricing structure. We need a medical system where the dr looks at the whole patient not only the age, disease process etc. we need a medical system where big pharma isnt promoting every new drug under the sun. And we need to get rid of the drug ads off tv. All of that for starters but none of it is going to happen because this is a capitalistic society and capitalism rules all.
You are not going to get any of that as long as you support a for-profit health care system with predatory insurance companies that profit off of denying people care. Medicare-for-all is the solution. The question is whether we have the guts to take on the vested corrupt health care interests.
You are not going to get any of that as long as you support a for-profit health care system with predatory insurance companies that profit off of denying people care. Medicare-for-all is the solution. The question is whether we have the guts to take on the vested corrupt health care interests.
That is indeed the question.
Republicans aren't interested and when Democrats tried, they paid the price.
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He and the GOP own healthcare now. They gutted the ACA, did away with individual mandates and penalties. What remains, is on them.
Trump and the Republicans own it now.
For a time, there was great glee posted on C-D threads that people could now get health insurance that didn't cover much and had caps for expensive treatments. But it was cheap!
Like riding a bike on the freeway, these plans didn't amount to much and left the rider in a fairly vulnerable position.
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Trump and Rubio screwed over most working people by de-stabilizing the healthcare insurance industry, driving rates up even faster than before.
We need Medicare for all, and we need Medicare to have the freedom to leverage it's buying power for better pricing, particularly on pharmaceuticals but in all other areas as well.
Most on Medicare contributed to Medicare their entire working lives.
In absence of a lifetime of Payroll Taxes, how would Medicare for all be funded?
Most on Medicare contributed to Medicare their entire working lives.
In absence of a lifetime of Payroll Taxes, how would Medicare for all be funded?
The income cap on current workers needs to be removed for both FICA and Medicare....this will fully fund both of these programs and will allow Medicare for all.
Until people admit the medical industry is a scam, prices will remain high. Yes, you must admit your doctor is a scam artist too. In bed with the pharma companies convincing you you have illnesses that don't really exist so they can put you on medication you don't really need. While the government continues to promote your unhealthy, bread, grains, and vegetables diet that only makes you less healthy.
My Doctor (MA, RomneyCare) is not a scam and certainly doesn't promote Big Pharma. At 65 my total bill for big Pharma is probably less than $20 a month.
Our hospitals in this state are among the best in the world. A poor or middle class person can have the best brain surgeon in the world operating on him or her (I know this - from experience)...
As far as diet - well, you can blame Capitalism for that. 50 LB bags of rice and beans don't make $$$ like taking the same and processing it and selling it for 40X the price. And, since the processed food makes peope sicker, it adds to the profits of all along the way.
However, keep in mind that there are states and localities who have "thought different" and have different results. Unless one thinks it is coincidence that mortality in MA is lower, gun violence is lower, etc.
As we "hippies" said even in 1970 - there is PLENTY for all in this country and this world. It's really a matter of distribution, diet, etc. - we cannot all afford to eat steak without major environmental consequences. We cannot all enrich health care companies to the tune of 11K per person per year without great debts. We cannot spend over a Trillion a year on the Security State without breaking the bank.
But we do.
If, as Trump fans clams, he is "the one", then we have to assume that by cutting health care, going into more and more debt and even considering national bankruptcy is the best plan going forward.
If, on the other hand, one realizes he is completely FOS and "bought and sold" then the current situation makes perfect sense.
Most on Medicare contributed to Medicare their entire working lives.
In absence of a lifetime of Payroll Taxes, how would Medicare for all be funded?
Who said Medicare-for-all cant be funded through employer payroll taxes or a federal VAT? The reason Medicare only cover the elderly now is because of the power of the health care industry in the 1960s, where they had to accept at least some losses, the ability to rip off the elderly, but still be able to rip off the majority of the under 65 population.
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