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It all started when I stated the pledge and anthem are foolish symbols of the State, and left-wingers and right-wingers both took offense. It brings them together.
Hell, 90% of posters here can't stand me because I challenge their orthodoxies. I challenge them to think, but most people don't know how to think anymore.
For crying out loud...this thread is still up? Libs and Trump haters, like it or not the majority of the country agrees with Trump on this stupid issue. It's a freaking game and Trump is cheerfully trolling you folks on possibly the least important issue this country has ever had to deal with.
Source this please? Honestly what I find is people complaining about athletes kneeling but nothing about sitting ordering food, using the toilet or cat-calling (all by the fans) during the anthem. And also people applauding the First Amendment right of the POTUS and his Kool-Aid drinkers but derriding anyone whether it is the players, me or anyone else labeled a "lib" or "Trump hater" for siding with the thug football players expressing their First Amendment right like the POTUS did.
And before anyone turns this into "Oh, he said Trump can't say anything and should shut up". Well no I didn't unless you twist words. What I have said and continue to say is that the POTUS has no business saying anything that is completely unconstitutional like kicking those out who use their First Amendment right. That is cruel and inhumane punishment (another constitutional amendment mind you) for someone who didn't even break the Clear and Present danger law. Kneeling during the anthem hasn't started a riot yet, so no clear and present danger is created by the player doing so.
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Originally Posted by green_mariner
Now this thread has morphed into a conversation about anarchy. Anything I had to say many pages ago got lost in this mess.
It is because IMHO, the POTUS is turning the US anarchistic, at least for his detractors. Just look at the ANTIFA movements (which have gotten much quieter of late) and all the activism and nonrecognition of Trump as POTUS. I mean it is so bad at times, I wonder if I should hang my flag upside because of the state of distress our country is in over how divided we are and not really anybody is trying to unite us.
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Heil!
That is asinine. I'm an actual anarchist and that is about as far from the truth as you can get.
Trump is a big-government Statist. He has virtually nothing in common with libertarianism.
His detractors want an even bigger government than he wants.
Anarchy means nonrecognition of authority (among other things relating to absence of govt). The not-my-president crowd don't recognize Trump as authority. It is bit of a stretch but to the anti-Trump crowd, it is true. That said, I don't think we'd see French or even Russian Revolution levels of anarchy if Trump was forcibly removed but rather typical US transition of power (granted for it to entirely switch the house needs to go Blue (not unforseeable) and Pence would need to step down or be removed as well.)
Anarchy means nonrecognition of authority (among other things relating to absence of govt). The not-my-president crowd don't recognize Trump as authority. It is bit of a stretch but to the anti-Trump crowd, it is true. That said, I don't think we'd see French or even Russian Revolution levels of anarchy if Trump was forcibly removed but rather typical US transition of power (granted for it to entirely switch the house needs to go Blue (not unforseeable) and Pence would need to step down or be removed as well.)
I don't recognize any President as authority.
The anti-Trump crowd will have as much success removing him as did the anti-Obama crowd. It's all noise, mostly by paid actors and controlled opposition.
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