Metoo has just targeted Morgan Freeman (border, assault, children, women)
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I did hear you, and have no problem believing that perspective.
However, if what you say is true, and it was culturally acceptable for those distant times, then why try to hold people accountable today?
Though different, it reminds me of a skit in a movie where the woman thinks she has little to no case, but her lawyer convinces her that she is the victim.
By the end, this woman is demanding her rights, and even goes beyond what the lawyer suggested regarding custody of the kids.
First, I think that movie clip is hilarious -- one of Carrey's best roles!
Second, as far as why try to hold people accountable today for what happened many years ago, I think it boils down to exactly what was done and under what circumstances.
For example, if we are talking about someone speaking out now and trying to punish someone for some company party groping 20 years ago that might have occurred "under the influence" and MIGHT have had some implied consent to it, that is one thing. However, if we are talking about unwanted and violent breast or crotch grabbing in which the victim definitely made clear that s/he did not want -- or any kind of sexual coercion -- that is quite another! JMHO, of course.
The three men who have been outed so far are men who can make or break a young actress's career. Its makes me wonder what young men breaking into the business have to do, perhaps look the other way when they see women abused.
First, I think that movie clip is hilarious -- one of Carrey's best roles!
Second, as far as why try to hold people accountable today for what happened many years ago, I think it boils down to exactly what was done and under what circumstances.
For example, if we are talking about someone speaking out now and trying to punish someone for some company party groping 20 years ago that might have occurred "under the influence" and MIGHT have had some implied consent to it, that is one thing. However, if we are talking about unwanted and violent breast or crotch grabbing in which the victim definitely made clear that s/he did not want -- or any kind of sexual coercion -- that is quite another! JMHO, of course.
Indeed that entire movie was hilarious. Carrey is best when he does physical comedy and acts the fool.
As to your other point, I still think we are talking about different things. Physically forcing sex on a co-worker or subordinate is/was criminal, and as long as the statutes of limitations has not expired, bring any rapist to trial.
However, if we start getting into what might have been considered sexual foreplay or advances back in the day compared with now, the water gets much murkier.
For example, SOME women play hard to get and want to be pursued. Thus the age old saying that "sometimes no means yes".
Today a person might not even believe such as thing ever existed, as they were raised to understand "no means no".
Some women like to be wined and dined over several dates before they even want to be touched. Others might very well respond to touching certain areas on the first date. Thus what is considered groping today, has a different meaning just a few short decades ago.
Frankly, I do not think we are even talking about that with people like Weinstein or big time movie actors. Instead they seem to be accused of using their power/influence/money into coercing some women into having sex with them.
Many of these women (rightly or wrongly) accepted the "casting coach" as a means of breaking into the business, getting a starring role, etc.
Hence the reason most parents didn't want their starry-eyed daughters running off to Hollywood or modeling agencies in NY. They knew those dangers existed, and didn't want their daughters to be seduced by potential fame & fortune.
Yet, should a woman who submitted to sex (not forced rape) to advance their career, now be able to say it was wrong, or even classify what happened as rape?
BTW-I think Weinstein and those like him are slime balls. However many of them used their power/influence to get women to have sex with them, that never would have under normal conditions.
Which reminds me of this scene;
This reminds me of the whole steroid era in baseball (still not completely extinguished) in how you almost have assume nobody is above suspicion at this point. Pretty sad.
Sad, but not surprising, really.
There's a culture that's still growing in this nation where it's acceptable for power to be abused. Trump's win was part of that - a sleazy man who's never been held accountable for anything. How many of those who voted for him wish they, too, could live like that? Oh, sure - it's human nature, but the whole point of being a free and advanced society is to be able to rise above that... not blindly support strongmen because we wish to be the "alpha" and above the law someday, too.
As for Morgan Freeman, this is unfortunate given his amazing voice and acting, but nobody should be above the rules, regardless of their skillset or lack thereof. May justice be done.
There are quite a few comments stating that Morgan had a sexual relationship with his step-granddaughter. When I looked for some sort of proof of this, I found that this rumor originates with the man who murdered his step-granddaughter.
I think we can strike that off the list as nothing beyond a murderer throwing mud at everyone.
This People Magazine article epitomizes the incredibly low threshold for #metoo outrage.
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I was a 25-year-old, green and determined on-camera reporter for a men’s magazine when I first met Freeman at the premiere of Now You See Me in 2013.
A 25-year-old professional journalist, yet she seems to believe she wasn't old enough to handle flirtation from a grown man. Are millennials really so infantilized that they see themselves as children at 25?
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My videographer and I decided to ask each actor, from Freeman to Mark Ruffalo to Isla Fisher to Michael Caine, “If you could do one magic trick, what would it be?” The answers ranged from disappearing to saving the environment, but Freeman’s was the real outlier.
Freeman, after asking and receiving permission to make an off color comment, told her his magic trick would make her clothes disappear.
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Almost exactly five years later, I’ll never forget my mint green dress that felt like it was being taken off with Freeman’s eyes. At the same time, I’ll also never forget feeling slightly flattered—a very, very famous actor told me I’m attractive. Not in those words. But, he did. That’s kind of cool…right?
So it was fine at the time but now...
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...back to my original question, do I mess with the man who has played God multiple times?
Thanks to the courage I’ve acquired from the women who came before me, I have decided I will. This is no longer a laughing matter, and it never should have been in the first place.
God, you messed with the wrong girls.
If this is #metoo, how can it have a shred of credibility?
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