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Old 05-25-2018, 02:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Every time we have a shooting, whether it's in San Bernardino, Georgia disco, Ft. Hood military base, Las Vegas, or a high school in Santa Fe TX, the same panic-stricken talking heads do their best to throw the baby out with the bath water. They demand we give our government the authority to restrict or ban some or all of our guns. Even though it has been tried over and over, and things never get any better. Even the "gun controllers" will agree that there are are too many mass shootings today... despite decades of their schemes being enacted and their promises the schemes would make things better.

Now, as predictably as floods following a hurricane, they are doing the same thing again. Don't these people ever learn? Have they ever even bothered examining the reasons why the people who wrote and ratified the Constitution and BOR, decided unanimously to forbid all governments in the U.S. from infringing our right to own and carry guns? Despite their having just as much trouble with nutcases and guns then, as we do now?

If these shortsighted people get their way, we will see a lot more Americans oppressed, injured, and killed that we ever have outside of outright war. And if other governments' actions are anything to go by, our government could yet exceed even that total, if they get even a little authority. Because history also demonstrates repeatedly that if you give them an inch they will eventually take a mile.

"Making laws to get more guns off the streets" is a BAD idea. It would let criminals commit more crimes in relative safety, while disarming only the law-abiding.

If everyone were allowed to carry (i.e. if the 2nd amendment were obeyed for a change), most people still wouldn't bother. But criminals would be more cautious and fearful when committing crimes, and would do it less for fear of a few people out of the crowd probably being armed. And that would cause a reduction in crime, far more effectively than the latest useless attempt to "get guns off the streets".

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post51995234

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[Buford O. Furrow] considered attacking three Jewish institutions: the Skirball Cultural Center, the University of Judaism and the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance, but security measures presented too much of a problem.
Furrow pulled off the freeway into the Granada Hills area of Los Angeles and made his way to the North Valley Jewish Community Center [a "gun-free zone" that had no guards -LA] just before 11 a.m.
There were about 250 children playing outside when Furrow walked into the lobby carrying an Uzi-type submachine-gun. He opened fire, spraying bullets from right to left, leaving smoke and more than 70 shells on the ground.

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Old 05-25-2018, 05:57 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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HORRORS. roll another one.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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"But criminals would be more cautious and fearful when committing crimes, and would do it less for fear of a few people out of the crowd probably being armed."

Yes. More good guys with guns. Crime will be a thing of the past.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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Your thread title is unintentionally funny

What would be the appropriate reaction after "another mass shooting"?
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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"But criminals would be more cautious and fearful when committing crimes, and would do it less for fear of a few people out of the crowd probably being armed."

Yes. More good guys with guns. Crime will be a thing of the past.
A potential problem i see is cops arriving on the scene to see a guy with gun shooting another guy,i suspect they will shoot the guy with the gun rather than first ask if he is a good guy with a gun.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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Your thread title is unintentionally funny

What would be the appropriate reaction after "another mass shooting"?


Oh, I don't know......

Maybe serious, non partisan investigationa into why mass shootings are becoming more common......despite the fact that increased regulations on guns over the past few decades have made it more difficult to legally obtain firearms than it was say, 40 years ago when you could buy a gun with no background check at all and mass shootings were a very rare thing????
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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Every time we have a shooting, whether it's in San Bernardino, Georgia disco, Ft. Hood military base, Las Vegas, or a high school in Santa Fe TX, the same panic-stricken talking heads do their best to throw the baby out with the bath water. They demand we give our government the authority to restrict or ban some or all of our guns. Even though it has been tried over and over, and things never get any better. Even the "gun controllers" will agree that there are are too many mass shootings today... despite decades of their schemes being enacted and their promises the schemes would make things better.

Now, as predictably as floods following a hurricane, they are doing the same thing again. Don't these people ever learn? Have they ever even bothered examining the reasons why the people who wrote and ratified the Constitution and BOR, decided unanimously to forbid all governments in the U.S. from infringing our right to own and carry guns? Despite their having just as much trouble with nutcases and guns then, as we do now?

If these shortsighted people get their way, we will see a lot more Americans oppressed, injured, and killed that we ever have outside of outright war. And if other governments' actions are anything to go by, our government could yet exceed even that total, if they get even a little authority. Because history also demonstrates repeatedly that if you give them an inch they will eventually take a mile.

"Making laws to get more guns off the streets" is a BAD idea. It would let criminals commit more crimes in relative safety, while disarming only the law-abiding.

If everyone were allowed to carry (i.e. if the 2nd amendment were obeyed for a change), most people still wouldn't bother. But criminals would be more cautious and fearful when committing crimes, and would do it less for fear of a few people out of the crowd probably being armed. And that would cause a reduction in crime, far more effectively than the latest useless attempt to "get guns off the streets".

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post51995234

And very little, if any time is spent on the school where the Resource Office STOPPED a"mass' shooting"!


The LSM has an ant-gun agenda.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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A potential problem i see is cops arriving on the scene to see a guy with gun shooting another guy,i suspect they will shoot the guy with the gun rather than first ask if he is a good guy with a gun.

"A potential problem i see"


Easily solved.


The police were uniforms and those NOT in uniform wear JACKETS with POLICE or FBI, etc on them.


Those at a school could have easy access to jackets with something on them identifying them as the "good guys."
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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Oh, I don't know......

Maybe serious, non partisan investigationa into why mass shootings are becoming more common......despite the fact that increased regulations on guns over the past few decades have made it more difficult to legally obtain firearms than it was say, 40 years ago when you could buy a gun with no background check at all and mass shootings were a very rare thing????
In other words, after "another mass shooting" the answer is more guns because more guns prevents more mass shooting which are caused by people with guns. Yes, perfectly logical.....in the bizarro world.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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And very little, if any time is spent on the school where the Resource Office STOPPED a"mass' shooting"!


The LSM has an ant-gun agenda.
I don't know what media you get your info from but the stuff I read covered this as much as it needed to be covered and it covered how this this officer and the others that engaged the student were heroes for stepping up and doing their job.

I think sometimes people see or don't see what they want to see. It helps to complete the narrative in their head.

The armed resource officer and trained police officers knew to engage the shooter to help get everyone else out -- It was an impressive and, yes, a direct opposite scenario to Parkland from what we have been told.

Training, experience seem to be very very important in a situation with gun violence.
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