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In real life, I occasionally like to discuss issues with those of differing opinions who discuss things openly and will hear, if not agree with, me. I know a few local people who think Nunes has just temporarily lost his mind and his way and hope he might regain it at some point.
I confess though, so many of the Trumper posts here on the forum are so banal, intentionally obtuse or trenchantly absent good sense/intellectual curiosity, that you can't engage in a real conversation. I take mini-C-D vacations or reductions just because it becomes no real challenge or there is minimal positive gain. You have to wade through so much drivel to get to the interesting posts. And, at times, it's just flat out draining, negative and disgustingly depressing as is Trump. When you work to write a sourced post which takes time, only to see a really good, interesting thread just up and disappear (often WHILE you're writing the post). A waste of time and energy. Disheartening.
I've often thought it would be great to have a non-Trump only and a Trump only board here. So they can blather each other to death and we can have a real exchange of ideas without those who just want to get the goat of non-Trumpers who want a real discussion. I wonder, would they attempt to sabotage and shut down so many threads by those of their own bent?
Unfortunately, there is a strong indication from a majority of Trumpers that, the more they can repeatedly give non-Trumpers a "poke in the eye" or shut them down when they don't want to hear it, the happier they are.
So, I guess I'll have to chat more with the locals including the few who think Nunes hasn't REALLY sold his soul to the devil.
I read and post here to gain a broader understanding of what's going on. So much is going on that it is hard to keep up and even harder to make sense of things.
There are indeed a number of pro-Trump folks who post nothing but nonsense, clear attempts to derail the conversation, filled with "slyly" worded insults about others being crybabies, wetting their pants, etc.
To be fair, there are several non-Trump folks whose posts amount to little more than "Trump is a moron."
I tend to use the ignore function a lot. I appreciate the option to view a specific post without being subject to a steady stream of vitriol. I also just ignore most threads.
Though the pro-Trump folks appear to dominate the threads, the polls consistently show about a 40-60 split, about where the nation is today. Gallup had Trump approval at 40% and disapproval at 55% yesterday.
But the reason I stay on is that there are several who post here who are interested in exploring worthwhile dialogue.
For example, I'm interested in Nunes. He's a fascinating character. He keeps popping up in the oddest dramas and he always ends up looking like a stooge, astonished that things didn't work out the way he had hoped.
He appears trapped in a role he is ill-suited for and not all that comfortable in. Like a poker player who keeps losing one pot after the next despite his best bluffs but who can't get up from the table as he's already lost too much money.
He's been re-elected several times. What do folks in Fresno see in him?
Maybe that's why Nunes went to Washington.
He may get his own statue there.
He is turning out to be an American hero.
He was right about his first choice of an occupation------mucking-out dairy barns. I wonder why there hasn't been an effort to recall him, in California? You'd think that there'd be a lot of recall efforts against republican members of congress. But he has little chance of being reelected this fall, after the way he has disgraced his district and state. There will be big turnouts by democrats in that election, to dump people like him.
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Only if local votes count. The votes of those people who elected Nunes, sent him to Washington and then re-elected him previously thinking he was going to work in behalf of them. Now seems they're thinking he's working in behalf of Trump and not in their best interest. (Like a number of constituencies and incumbents in other areas. A Trumpian reversal trend/tide.)
A paper that, in the past, has supported Republicans who actually work in the better interests of their overall constituency and community which Nunes isn't even concerned enough to pretend to do. He's busy serving his Trump master and Russia. Setting his sights there for his next job?
So you don't buy that the hometown paper is of value in providing info about Nunes. How about money/fundraising? Does that matter? Nunes outsider, newcomer opponent, Andrew Janz, has already raised more than four times the amount Nunes has in his own district. Those who used to generously open their pockets for their native son now aren't. Gee, could it be the Trump thing like so many other places?
What a predictably Trumpian attitude and thing to say. Like Trump, his sycophants are always wanting to inflict damage and vengeance on non-believers. No matter how dunderheaded/wrong-headed the Trumpers are.
Non-Trumpers, of all political stripes, just want to be rid of the pathologically lying, sociopathic, black-hole-where-a-conscience-should-be, old buzzard and the carrion he surrounds himself with. We want a decent president that inspires pride and confidence in our country instead of the mortification, depredation and erosion inflicted upon most of us by the malefactor Trump and his mob.
What part of a LIBERAL RAG do you NOT understand?
EVERYTHING you claimed comes down to BEING a LIBERAL RAG MOST of what they say will be NEGATIVE towards repubs.
It's been a week since the briefings, and nary a word.
If there had been anything, anything at all that he could have distorted to make the FBI sound nefarious, "he would have knocked the doors of the room down to get to the nearest TV camera to declare that it was a huge scandal that was worse than Watergate — hell, worse than the Holocaust."
What part of a LIBERAL RAG do you NOT understand? EVERYTHING you claimed comes down to BEING a LIBERAL RAG MOST of what they say will be NEGATIVE towards repubs.
FYI, the name of the thread is: "Devin Nunes' hometown paper calls on him to resign."
Relevant to the thread, I cited that hometown paper. If you want to refuse to believe and dismiss information that comes from a publication with knowledge of Nunes because of a different political leaning than your own, you are most certainly free to do a little research and cite another reputable source (or not) and refute those fundraising numbers and/or other info about Nunes; not in his hometown paper which the thread is about. But that would take a little work instead of an uninformed blanket dismissal just because.
I cited my source. You can do the same for yours.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
What do folks in Fresno see in him?
Thankfully, I'm not in his district (though I would love to cast my vote against him if I were).
The few folks from his area that I talk to who still support him are farmers, as was Nunes. They elected him because they thought he supported their ag interests. He has been way too occupied with Trump and Russia to serve those constituents, but a handful still have hope of him regaining his sanity and remembering who elected him. Live in hope, die in despair.
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A waste of time and energy. Disheartening.
