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I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
How can that be? They have free healthcare, that we are suppose to envy...
How many Canadians have to choose between food or medication, or rent or a doctor's visit? I don't see a flood of Canadians crossing the border for our healthcare "services".
I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
I had a nightmare like that here in the Midwest, at the local privately owned hospital.
In the second analysis, Hsia and colleagues examined data from nearly 25,000 ER visits. The data had been collected by the 2010 National Hospital Ambulatory Medical Care Survey.Hsia's team found that just over half of the ERs were able to get 90 percent of patients who needed to be admitted in and out of the ER within an 8-hour period. But, less than a quarter of ERs were able to get 90 percent of their non-admitted patients discharged within a 4-hour period.
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American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
I think that a (truly needed) boost in preventive care would ease the strain on hospital ER's considerably. A National Health Care program and single payer insurance could really help with this.
I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
Geesh. I have sat in waiting rooms for hours myself here in the U.S. Sometimes it takes months to see a doctor.
I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
and this is the side of socialized medicine many people do not understand.
How many Canadians have to choose between food or medication, or rent or a doctor's visit? I don't see a flood of Canadians crossing the border for our healthcare "services".
Good point. Healthcare for the common people ... ordinary folks ... is one area we as a nation suck at, and it shouldn't be necessary to cross a border to get decent health services and pharmaceuticals.
Sounds better than my experience with our private healthcare, 13 hours to be seen, 48 hours to be admitted.
this is obviously not normal. I have dealt with many ER and have never had a wait over a few minutes. Maybe in the case where the patient isn't all that seriously ill it is different. The only problem we have seen has to do with length of time to get an appointment with a new doctor. That is because many of the popular ones are also booked up for weeks. No system is perfect, ours is still better than countries with socialzed medicine. Think what you want, but even talk to a few doctors in countries with federal health plans. You may have a different idea.
Burdel: when have you waited hours in an ER? There may be exceptions: those living in the inner city that think the place to go if you have a cold is ER, but that isn't the usual situation. We have health providers in our family. I have a good idea about how the system works.
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