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Many Europeans and euro-Americans on the left are willing to commit demographic suicide as penance for past sins and to beg for forgiveness. The problem for some people is that not all Europeans are willing to do so. There is a great cultural conflict in western civilization between those who are willing to do so and those who are not.
Fellow human beings assisting others in a time of need has absolutely nothing to do with cultural or "demographic" suicide.
There's nothing wrong with having the moral fortitude and human conscience that's capable of transcending skin color.
You continually fail to connect the dots. This is a thread about Italy. Yet you bring up Native Americans genocides -- and Italy had no American colonies. You continually bring up the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, in which the Italians total non-participants, or at best extremely minor players. And you are using things that Italians aren't guilty of historically to justify the mass-immigration of the descendants of the Africans who sold other Africans into slavery -- both Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Saharan routes.
You're doing a lousy job connecting the dots back to Italy. Italy, Greece, all of Eastern Europe, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Germany were all non-participants in the crimes you're so eager to point to. They had no American colonies. They weren't involved in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. And they were the victims of the brutal Islamic Slave Trade for centuries. It's called blaming the victim. You're telling the victims of the worst slave culture in human history that they owe their abusers reparations.
No!
Just like all Europeans weren't slave traders or even remotely associated with slavery, many Arabs, Africans, and Moslems, weren't involved in European slavery.
Most of these immigrants are simply refugees seeking basic human relief from the tyranny waged against them in their own countries of origin. Most would be more than happy to return to their homelands, provided that peace could be restored and escalating corruption could be uprooted.
Why not establish a temporary sanctuary for these immigrants throughout Europe in various designated rural areas?
Establish educational programs that will be useful when they return to their homelands within the next several years.
Meanwhile, NATO and the UN can devise a method to utilize Russia and the US in the stabilization of Libya, Afganistan, Syria, and east Africa.
The immigrants can be taught agriculture, aquaculture, civil engineering, urban planning, medicinal techniques, etc.. over a five-year period. Most can then be repatriated.
Don't just kick these people out! Sure the ones causing problems must absolutely go! However, most of these immigrants aren't trouble-makers or rabble-roussers. Many are women with children who simply seek refuge from violence.
Just like all Europeans weren't slave traders or even remotely associated with slavery, many Arabs, Africans, and Moslems, weren't involved in European slavery.
Most of these immigrants are simply refugees seeking basic human relief from the tyranny waged against them in their own countries of origin. Most would be more than happy to return to their homelands, provided that peace could be restored and escalating corruption could be uprooted.
Why not establish a temporary sanctuary for these immigrants throughout Europe in various designated rural areas?
Establish educational programs that will be useful when they return to their homelands within the next several years.
Meanwhile, NATO and the UN can devise a method to utilize Russia and the US in the stabilization of Libya, Afganistan, Syria, and east Africa.
The immigrants can be taught agriculture, aquaculture, civil engineering, urban planning, medicinal techniques, etc.. over a five-year period. Most can then be repatriated.
Don't just kick these people out! Sure the ones causing problems must absolutely go! However, most of these immigrants aren't trouble-makers or rabble-roussers. Many are women with children who simply seek refuge from violence.
Just like all Europeans weren't slave traders or even remotely associated with slavery, many Arabs, Africans, and Moslems, weren't involved in European slavery.
Still, they have their own lands. Anatolia used to be European. It isn't any longer. If you could point to Europeans surviving as a major group in Anatlolia, then you'd have a point, But you can't. Immigration into European lands equals the eventual absolute displacement or eradication of Europeans. Europe is all native Europeans have. It isn't for the rest of the world as well.
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Most of these immigrants are simply refugees seeking basic human relief from the tyranny waged against them in their own countries of origin.
Garbage propaganda. Most are economic migrants.
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Most would be more than happy to return to their homelands, provided that peace could be restored and escalating corruption could be uprooted.
No they wouldn't.
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Why not establish a temporary sanctuary for these immigrants throughout Europe in various designated rural areas?
Haha! Why should Europe do that? They don't owe these migrants anything, least of all setting them up in valuable rural land to terrorize the farming population.
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Establish educational programs that will be useful when they return to their homelands within the next several years.
They aren't returning. Stop lying. And, again, Europe doesn't owe them a thing.
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Meanwhile, NATO and the UN can devise a method to utilize Russia and the US in the stabilization of Libya, Afganistan, Syria, and east Africa.
Most of these migrants did not arrive due to destabilization. Most arrived due to the EU's open invitation and demonstrably lax controls on filtering legitimate from invented asylum need.
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The immigrants can be taught agriculture, aquaculture, civil engineering, urban planning, medicinal techniques, etc.. over a five-year period. Most can then be repatriated.
Most can not be taught those things. Most will not have the requisite primary and secondary education.
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Don't just kick these people out!
They're going to go...
How do you think that such illicit immigration will play out generations from now? Natives will never accept them, based on the method that their ancestors came to Europe. It will always be a war.
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Many are women with children who simply seek refuge from violence.
Most are young men. Lie to me once.... "Green Globalist".
Fellow human beings assisting others in a time of need has absolutely nothing to do with cultural or "demographic" suicide.
There's nothing wrong with having the moral fortitude and human conscience that's capable of transcending skin color.
So why put it on Europe? There are many countries in the Middle East that can set up temporary sanctuaries for these people if that's the case. I don't see Egypt, right in the middle of it geographically speaking, taking any kind of role in this even though culturally, they are very similar. Funny, I don't see Jordan doing much either nor Saudi Arabia. Iran has a lot of empty space as well. Where is their invitation to take in millions of refugees?
Where's the moral fortitude from Islamic countries taking care of Islamic "refugees" if that's the case? Why aren't you demanding moral fortitude and human conscience from them? In many if not most cases, they don't even need to transcend any issues of skin color nor religion.
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I support the rights of nations to make their own decisions on immigration - whether open borders or zero immigration - without outside groups forcing their hand. Their nation, their decision.
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