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Your solution is human capital? Ummm ... okay. If you're saying they are going to be workers in economies that desperately need them, there's a ton of flaws with that premise. Muslims who migrated to Europe back in the 1960's are unemployed at triple the rate of ethnic Europeans. They can be because European countries are the most massive welfare states in the world. They don't need to work, therefore they don't. The unemployment rates for Muslims only gets worse and worse as you look at newer and newer generations.
"Syrians famously call the sea crossing to Europe “the journey of death.” They call the boats “the boats of death” and the smugglers “the agents of death.” "
Well, there goes business ... So your thinking them to be 'naive' ... just shows you under estimate people.
So why did Abdou do it?
"His family owned a pharmacy, and he planned to join the business. But as the conflict developed into a full-fledged war and he could no longer avoid mandatory military service, he fled to Egypt. “I didn’t want to participate in the killing. I didn’t want to share in the blood,” he told me. His family stayed behind."
Oh wait what? His family owned a pharmacy? No that can't be right ... His family stayed behind ... yea that part is believable.
Have you ever looked at some of these countries? I'm thinking by your comment, no. Also, I'm thinking Donald, is that you? Can't be Thor, I know that.
Do American's leave the states and enter into other countries illegally? That, we may never know, until there is a political reason to know. I'm not deflecting, I'm just saying. There are things people know, there are things people don't know and then there are things people pretend to know and that's when it all gets absurd.
The VAST MAJORITY of migrants aren't coming from Syria. They're coming from Northern and Sub-Saharan Africa.
They come from the lighter colored, dirt poor countries in the above picture. They come from: International Ranking Per Capita GDP out of 193 -- Country -- Per Person GDP In $
Much of it was explained in the video I linked with the gumballs that I'm guessing you never watched. The best people leave. The most destitute can't get out and with the best people gone, nothing in their country ever improves. Saying they live in ****hole countries is no commentary saying they are bad people. It means that the country they live in is horrible broken. In most cases, there is no ongoing war in these countries.
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Your solution is human capital? Ummm ... okay. If you're saying they are going to be workers in economies that desperately need them, there's a ton of flaws with that premise. Muslims who migrated to Europe back in the 1960's are unemployed at triple the rate of ethnic Europeans. They can be because European countries are the most massive welfare states in the world. They don't need to work, therefore they don't. The unemployment rates for Muslims only gets worse and worse as you look at newer and newer generations.
The VAST MAJORITY of migrants aren't coming from Syria. They're coming from Northern and Sub-Saharan Africa.
They come from the lighter colored, dirt poor countries in the above picture. They come from: International Ranking Per Capita GDP out of 193 -- Country -- Per Person GDP In $
Much of it was explained in the video I linked with the gumballs that I'm guessing you never watched. The best people leave. The most destitute can't get out and with the best people gone, nothing in their country ever improves. Saying they live in ****hole countries is no commentary saying they are bad people. It means that the country they live in is horrible broken. In most cases, there is no ongoing war in these countries.
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Ummm ... okay. If you're saying they are going to be workers in economies that desperately need them, there's a ton of flaws with that premise.
"Economist Theodore Schultz invented the term "human capital" in the 1960s to reflect the value of human capacities. He believed human capital was like any other type of capital; it could be invested in through education, training and enhanced benefits that lead to an improvement in the quality and level of production."
Yes ... such a flawed concept. What economy is so rich, it doesn't need workers?
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The VAST MAJORITY of migrants aren't coming from Syria. They're coming from Northern and Sub-Saharan Africa. In most cases, there is no ongoing war in these countries.
It means that the country they live in is horrible broken.
Then why on earth would 21,000 Americans live in Haiti and El Salvador? They moved there for ... drum roll, pls .... Opportunities, they couldn't find in the U.S.
Welfare states ... did you know the people coming from these yes, war torn country(s), who did not leave intending to wind up in Europe (Mali, was first choice for some) but the wars breaking out pushed them into that direction, their countries do not have a Federal Income tax ... and their governments were providing for them, best they could, before the wars.
That is why (for some) when they arrived after their long hard journey(s) and they found out, there were no provisions for them like they had been accustomed to, it confused the heck out of 'em.
Don't tell me you haven't read those media stories ... 'they arrived in EU expecting a hand out'. gees
They ended up in the EU, hoping to find some one who cared, turns out ... should have stayed put for all the good it done 'em.
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They ended up in the EU, hoping to find some one who cared, turns out ... should have stayed put for all the good it done 'em.
Honestly, this is the core of things. Bear in mind, these are the Africans with significant ambition. They have enough money, resources and physical health to make the journey. Those who are vastly worse off than them are left behind to suffer. And for some reason, they aren't stopping in Mali or Tunisia or any of the other places you claim was their end-goal. They are -- purely by weird accident according to you -- crossing the Mediterranean Sea and at significant risk to their life to get to Europe. That's a pretty weird "accident" if you ask me.
The problem with the massive push for mass-immigration in both the USA and the EU is that the vast majority of the people never asked for it and repeatedly voted against it. So yeah, the migrants might have wanted to stay where they were. The only way you're going to end fatalities from migrants crossing the Med is to send a clear message, "There's no point, they'll just send you back." By all means, spend money building better agriculture, infrastructure and healthcare in their home countries.
At the core of things, critics of this new Italian government must realize that Italians and every other Western European country didn't just magically wake up as Nazis and White Nationalists one morning. They experienced bad outcomes. They don't like where their counties are heading. And their governments keep on sweeping bad behavior by migrants under the rug, pretending it's not happening. The Italian election is a direct reaction to this. Brexit is a direct reaction to this. Liberal governments almost losing in France and Germany are a direct reaction to this. It's their country. They have a right to vote against the continuation of unlimited mass migration. They have a right to vote in a government that says, "You can't stay here." Bear in mind, these are not legal immigrants. They are part of a system of illegal immigration that drops anyone deemed to be endangered out on the Med off at the nearest safe harbor. None of the harbors across North Africa are deemed safe, so that inevitably means Italy is on the hook -- even if said endangered migrants are only 500 feet from the shores of Libya or Tunisia.
The political Left tends to be very generous with the money, housing, food and resources that aren't their own. This is one of the most significant failings of the Left everywhere: They're very generous when it comes to giving away other people's money and things. If they're feeling so charitable, they should use their own money, homes and things to be charitable with. Paul Joseph Watson is pretty blunt, but he's not wrong:
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Honestly, this is the core of things. Bear in mind, these are the Africans with significant ambition. They have enough money, resources and physical health to make the journey. Those who are vastly worse off than them are left behind to suffer. And for some reason, they aren't stopping in Mali or Tunisia or any of the other places you claim was their end-goal. They are -- purely by weird accident according to you -- crossing the Mediterranean Sea and at significant risk to their life to get to Europe. That's a pretty weird "accident" if you ask me.
The problem with the massive push for mass-immigration in both the USA and the EU is that the vast majority of the people never asked for it and repeatedly voted against it. So yeah, the migrants might have wanted to stay where they were. The only way you're going to end fatalities from migrants crossing the Med is to send a clear message, "There's no point, they'll just send you back." By all means, spend money building better agriculture, infrastructure and healthcare in their home countries.
At the core of things, critics of this new Italian government must realize that Italians and every other Western European country didn't just magically wake up as Nazis and White Nationalists one morning. They experienced bad outcomes. They don't like where their counties are heading. And their governments keep on sweeping bad behavior by migrants under the rug, pretending it's not happening. The Italian election is a direct reaction to this. Brexit is a direct reaction to this. Liberal governments almost losing in France and Germany are a direct reaction to this. It's their country. They have a right to vote against the continuation of unlimited mass migration. They have a right to vote in a government that says, "You can't stay here." Bear in mind, these are not legal immigrants. They are part of a system of illegal immigration that drops anyone deemed to be endangered out on the Med off at the nearest safe harbor. None of the harbors across North Africa are deemed safe, so that inevitably means Italy is on the hook -- even if said endangered migrants are only 500 feet from the shores of Libya or Tunisia.
The political Left tends to be very generous with the money, housing, food and resources that aren't their own. This is one of the most significant failings of the Left everywhere: They're very generous when it comes to giving away other people's money and things. If they're feeling so charitable, they should use their own money, homes and things to be charitable with. Paul Joseph Watson is pretty blunt, but he's not wrong:
It's an interesting read and it kinda makes all of my points for me. For example:
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Amadou decided to search for “something better.” He could not know how little salvation he would find in Sicily and Cara di Mineo.
He thought if he could illegally sneak into Europe, he'd be in the promised land. He was extremely naive. He should have just stayed where he was and at this point, Italy should just send him back there. The more that his fellow countrymen realize that there's no point in going to Europe, the fewer will die or be sold into slavery for life along the way.
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Amadou says that women are made to engage in sex work both inside the camp and on the surrounding highways and that the police and the administration know what is going on but don’t do anything about it.
The police are in a do-nothing mode when it comes to migrants. They pretty much ignore everything, including the crimes those migrants commit. Note that it doesn't say who is forcing women into sex work. My money is on the male Muslim migrants they're living with.
One of the points this article makes that I neglected to mention: The powerful and corrupt are making money off of these illegal migrants hand over fist. They want more of them to come for very corrupt and selfish reasons. NGO "rescue ships" are making money off of them.
There's a ton of good reasons to put a stop to this illegal human smuggling racket ASAP.
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It's an interesting read and it kinda makes all of my points for me. For example:
He thought if he could illegally sneak into Europe, he'd be in the promised land. He was extremely naive. He should have just stayed where he was and at this point, Italy should just send him back there. The more that his fellow countrymen realize that there's no point in going to Europe, the fewer will die or be sold into slavery for life along the way.
The police are in a do-nothing mode when it comes to migrants. They pretty much ignore everything, including the crimes those migrants commit. Note that it doesn't say who is forcing women into sex work. My money is on the male Muslim migrants they're living with.
One of the points this article makes that I neglected to mention: The powerful and corrupt are making money off of these illegal migrants hand over fist. They want more of them to come for very corrupt and selfish reasons. NGO "rescue ships" are making money off of them.
There's a ton of good reasons to put a stop to this illegal human smuggling racket ASAP.
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Note that it doesn't say who is forcing
Mafia and how you missed that?
You keep posting arguments that inhuman treatment is justified ... and I'll keep posting the inhuman treatment ... because there is no justification for the lack of humanity in people.
Yes, they are all looking for a better life and I can not figure out why that is a bad thing. They are lucky if they live through the journey, many if they survive afterwards. All of them have but one hope, to provide better for their family. Is there any one on this earth that doesn't want that?
People look at their resources ... they get an education, they learn a trade, if they can not find those two things where they live, they may move to a location where it can be found. Look at your own self, would you, if you haven't yet, do the very same thing. I know I did it. I couldn't find work in the small town I was in, so as to support my children and I moved. Should I have stayed where I was and suffer and let my children suffer? Where is the sense in that? If I had done that, I would be the one who was practicing inhuman judgement.
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There's a ton of good reasons to put a stop to this illegal human smuggling racket ASAP.
Investigate, arrest, incarcerate ... officials turning a blind eye to it
What law allows people to sleep nights, knowing they had a direct hand in the suffering of others?
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They are lucky if they live through the journey, many if they survive afterwards. All of them have but one hope, to provide better for their family. Is there any one on this earth that doesn't want that? 
