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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
That’s interesting. Of course as he points out, Israel isn’t a NATO member and has no NATO security guarantees.
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It's an incredibly stupid comment by someone in NATO.
I would have to seriously question his ability to command.
Iran is simply incapable of sustaining offensive combat operations more than 50-100 miles beyond its borders.
Iran's army is not structured or organized to conduct such operations, largely because they don't have the logistical support units, and they have absolutely zero experience in conducting such operations
Iran doesn't even have the capability to recover vehicles from the battlefield that would be destroyed, damaged, suffered mechanical failure, or wrecked, and, yes, vehicle accidents happen on and off the battlefield for any number of reasons.
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Originally Posted by AleeGee
Iran took embassy officials hostage in 1980. I would call that one rung below an attack. That happened during my lifetime.
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Iran was right to do so, since the US was attacking from the embassy.
The 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations bars the use of an embassy or diplomatic mission for any purpose other than diplomacy, and further bars any personnel from interfering in the internal affairs of the State in which the embassy or diplomatic mission is operating.
The US committed an act of war and interfered in the internal affairs of Iran, voiding any protections under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, when it used the embassy as a base of operations to overthrow Prime Minister Mossadeq, first by attempting to murder him 3 times, and having failed that, by having Mossadeq arrested and tried before a kangaroo court.
The US committed further acts of war and interfered in the internal affairs of Iran by directing the SAVAK from the embassy. Embassy personnel spied on Iranian civilians and directed the SAVAK to arrest, imprison, torture and murder those civilians.
The US committed another act of war and interfered in the internal affairs of Iran when President Carter sent General Huyser to the embassy to meet with Iranian generals (the three corps commanders each commanding several divisions, plus several generals commanding independent divisions or brigades), in an attempt to convince them to initiate a military coup and establish military rule in Iran.
The US got some of what it deserved.
You say you were alive when it happened, then you were alive when Clinton was impeached.
Suppose Clinton was convicted in a trial by the Senate, and during the interim before Vice-President Gore was inaugurated, President Chirac of France sent a general to the French embassy in Washington DC to convince US military commanders to initiate a coup and seize power.
You, and Millions of other Americans would be absolutely livid, and don't pretend you wouldn't be, and it's hypocritical to think other countries should have to tolerate the constant interference by the US in their internal affairs.
It's ironic, but the taking of the US embassy led to the discovery of thousands of pages of CIA documents, including hundreds detailing the US involvement in the illegal overthrow of PM Mossadeq.
For years the US claimed it was Iranian propaganda, but finally admitted to it.
Had that not happened, it's unlikely the US government would have ever admitted to it.
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