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Trump has been overly vindictive over his 15 months in office. In fact he's been vindictive to the extent that he is neglecting what other presidents consider duties. The President has knowingly made enemies of the FBI. People, as I recall reading were afraid of Herbert Hoover because of his power. Although Mueller is a Republican he may announce Trump wrong doings at some strategic point just before the election just because the FBI has been so viciously attacked.
So what will your attitude be if Mueller finds no evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians?
Will you lecture us about how we should all be mature, accept facts as they have been found, and move on to more important things?
Speaking for myself - If Mueller finds nothing, then there's nothing. I'll accept the fact that he investigated the issue fully. And, yes I know you did not address the question to me.
Removal from office does nothing for liberals or progressives. He would be succeeded by Pence who's agenda would be little enough different to not be any benefit (although I believe Pence is a moral man who is not out to steal everything that's not tied down). Liberals and moderates and Traditional Republicans already know this.
People should just let president chaos continue on his own self destructive path, and vote appropriately when the opportunity presents itself.
This should have been the attitude of the democrats from the very start.
No rioting in the streets
No assaulting Trump supporter
No absurd recount by "Jill Stein"
No attempt to circumvent our democracy with faithless electors
No attempt to usurp a duly elected president with a special counsel
Yes, if you dems would have been reasonable, we could have avoided this entire mess.
This should have been the attitude from the democrats the very start.
No rioting in the streets
No assaulting Trump supporter
No absurd recount by "Jill Stein"
No attempt to circumvent our democracy with faithless electors
No attempt to usurp a duly elected president with a special counsel
Yes, if you dems would have been reasonable, we could have avoided all of this mess.
At the time I still considered my self a Republican.
That has changed.
However, I don't remember any rioting, assaulting or attempting to circumvent our democracy. I do remember widespread suspicion of a rigged election, you do too.
Jill Stein is not Democrat, although they do have the right to ask for a recount and I am sure if Trump had lost by the close margin he had won in those three states, Trump would have been the one demanding a recount and crying foul. It goes with the territory.
At the time I still considered my self a Republican.
That has changed.
However, I don't remember any rioting, assaulting or attempting to circumvent our democracy. I do remember widespread suspicion of a rigged election, you do too.
Jill Stein is not Democrat, although they do have the right to ask for a recount and I am sure if Trump had lost by the close margin he had won in those three states, Trump would have been the one demanding a recount and crying foul. It goes with the territory.
Sorry, but you can't rewrite history by pretending to not remember.
the dem playbook is to delay investigations of Obama admin misdeeds within DC in hopes that dems will get enough folks into congress this fall so they can work to impeach Trump - for a reason they're not sure of yet.
Trump has been overly vindictive over his 15 months in office. In fact he's been vindictive to the extent that he is neglecting what other presidents consider duties. The President has knowingly made enemies of the FBI. People, as I recall reading were afraid of Herbert Hoover because of his power. Although Mueller is a Republican he may announce Trump wrong doings at some strategic point just before the election just because the FBI has been so viciously attacked.
I believe you mean J. Edgar Hoover, who was the head of the FBI for a VERY long time. Herbert Hoover was president during the Depression, prior to FDR.
At the time I still considered my self a Republican.
That has changed.
However, I don't remember any rioting, assaulting or attempting to circumvent our democracy. I do remember widespread suspicion of a rigged election, you do too.
Jill Stein is not Democrat, although they do have the right to ask for a recount and I am sure if Trump had lost by the close margin he had won in those three states, Trump would have been the one demanding a recount and crying foul. It goes with the territory.
There was no "rioting in the streets", etc. There WERE well-organized , well-attended, and peaceful marches, gatherings, and rallies throughout the country, of those who saw the way of the wind early on. I took part in a few of them myself. I'm in my early eighth decade, and hardly a rioter or extremist or law-breaker. I am a very concerned American, and my politics are usually moderate. But these are not moderate times, and my actions, like those of others, reflect that. The First Amendment gives me the right to do just what I did and will continue to do, should circumstances warrant it.
Those who claim that that peaceful rallies, speeches and permitted marches equate to rioting or other violence are perverting both history and the truth for their own questionable purposes. As for "circumventing our democracy", they are instead the very essence of our democracy.
Last edited by CraigCreek; 06-07-2018 at 09:01 AM..
Sorry, but you can't rewrite history by pretending to not remember.
I remember, millions of Americans remember.
We will never forget it.
See my post above. I was there. No rioting.
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