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Old 06-12-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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"Attempted". That means it did not happen. She was caught and prosecuted. (not like she should have been though)

It more likely means they just didn't have enough proof to guarantee conviction and there was a plea bargain for a lesser charge. She gets a lesser charge and the prosecution gets an easy win and the city avoids the thorny issue of reversing or nullifying the election.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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It more likely means they just didn't have enough proof to guarantee conviction and there was a plea bargain for a lesser charge. She gets a lesser charge and the prosecution gets an easy win and the city avoids the thorny issue of reversing or nullifying the election.
IMO we are not nearly tough enough with those who do things like this.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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Every inch of this country is divided into voting precincts. The 2 parties have a precinct chairman in every precinct that a volunteer can be found to work. Part of the job of precinct chair is to know their voters. Many times, if they are doing their job, they have block captions, subdivisions chairs, etc. in order to know who lives in what house.

Many times the opposing party chair and I have compared notes on who lives where. Now that county property records are online it is not so hard identifying voters and where they live.

And, we could all buy that info from Cambridge Analytica.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Example -

Janice Lee Hart pleaded guilty to eight misdemeanor counts of attempted absentee ballot fraud in connection with misconduct while working on the 2013 campaign for District 2 City Commissioner Amos Newsome. Prosecutors charged that Hart was not present when absentee ballots were signed even though she was listed as a witness on the ballots. In the election, Newsome defeated his challenger by only 14 votes and received 119 out of the 124 absentee ballots cast. A judge sentenced Hart to 12 months in the county jail
for each count, which he suspended to two years of probation for each count.
That kinda of stuff is not unusual. Somebodies relative is supporting a certain candidate. They go to mom's nursing home to help the old folks vote.

Hush though. The one's I know who do it are Republican. It matters in school board races.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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Sad that any American would cheer the hindrance of a fellow citizen's right to vote. For shame!
Well, there is a history in America in making it next to impossible to vote. See the Jim Crow era.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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Default 7500 people purged from Ohio voter rolls, ruled by courts

These people hadn't voted in years and ignored notices to respond if they still lived at that address. All states need to do this. They also should connect Social Security death notices to voter registration so people are automatically deleted. We need to restore integrity and transparency to elections.
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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Yep. Plus, the Ohio law gives the disenfranchised 6 years to continue with their enfranchisement. Now, what is so hard about that? Liberals are like babies. You not only have to feed 'em pablum; you then have to pat on the back to bring about a burp.

Babies we can understand the momentary helplessness. It passes with time. Libs? Babyhood more of a permanent condition.

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Straw man argument. No one is losing their right to vote. They can simply re-register.
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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Yet, it is a total of six years without voting, before the purge actually happens. Two years without voting. A notice is sent to on record address, then four more years before Ohio removes said voter from the rolls. If the voter re-registers, after that six year absence from voting, they are back in the game. So, how is Ohio's law out of sync with what you prefer? It is very generous for a mia voter. What kind of citizen does that make one? Not interested in voting; for six years? Strains credulity as to being a authentic barrier to enfranchisement.

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Continuous re-registrations are a barrier to voting for many people. Also if you show up to vote in 4 years, but got sent a notice you didn't receive 2 years prior to that elections, then you will lose your right to vote.



I do believe that they should have a similar system to many of the southern states that were cited in this article. Whereas, you can show up to vote and you can be "inactive" in their computers but if you can prove your identity and address, then you are allowed to vote. IMO a purge should only be done every 6-10 years and should only be done for people who died in particular (which can be easily crosschecked within a state or the SSA electronically) or people who moved out of the area.
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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Yet, it is a total of six years without voting, before the purge actually happens. So, how is Ohio's law out of sync with what you prefer. It is very generous for a mia voter. What kind of citizen does that make one? Not interested in voting; for six years? Strains credulity as to being a authentic barrier to enfranchisement.
Our rights are not based upon "use it or lose it".
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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Yet, it is a total of six years without voting, before the purge actually happens. Two years without voting. A notice is sent to on record address, then four more years before Ohio removes said voter from the rolls. If the voter re-registers, after that six year absence from voting, they are back in the game. So, how is Ohio's law out of sync with what you prefer? It is very generous for a mia voter. What kind of citizen does that make one? Not interested in voting; for six years? Strains credulity as to being a authentic barrier to enfranchisement.
As I said in another post, the town knows where I live. The fire dep and police know. The treasuers office knows since they collect the taxes. The town clerks office knows. The animal control officer knows since I license my dog. The school dep knows. The state knows due to income tax, real ID, vehicle registration, etc etc etc.
To say no one in govt knows where I live and I have to prove it to vote, strains every inch of credibility. Its BS and thats all it is,
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