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If they don't have working desalination plants servicing the coast of California by 2027 it's abject failure. They should plan on moving forward, not backward.
The Earth is 2/3 water... there's no water shortage, just idiots who don't want to transport it effectively.
And where are you going to build a desalination plant in Califor-Nimby-a? And then there's the CA Coastal Commission that won't allow any mid-rises or high-rises along the entire CA coast line, and what will they say about it? Best chance for a de-sal plant would be near Camp Pendelton! Off-limits to the notorious Nimby's in CA!
If we turned the water problem in CA over to the Israeli's, who are the stingiest with water in the world, the best water managers of any country, one could easily add another 10 million to CA.
Starting in grade school in Israel, children are taught about the sanctity of water. You don't run the water while brushing your teeth. For showering, you spray yourself with water, turn the water off, wash yourself, and then rinse.
Even putting a pail on the top of your roof calls for a permit from the city.
When Israel was created, skeptics didn't believe Israel could support even a 500k population, given the shortage of water, and now? Millions and millions and they have water leftover, enough to share with Jordan, and to have agricultural oases, producing enough food to export some of it to neighbors or to Europe. Drip irrigation all the way!
Effectively, there's no water shortage in the entire Southwest, and never will be!
Starting in grade school in Israel, children are taught about the sanctity of water. You don't run the water while brushing your teeth. For showering, you spray yourself with water, turn the water off, wash yourself, and then rinse.
Do most people not do this? It seems like common sense...
Infrastructure projects would be fine, but how you gonna pay for it? The private sector isn't going to take on such a project as it wouldn't be profitable. That leaves the Government and they would have to impose taxes. It takes a 2/3 vote in the legislature to pass a tax bill. Would the Federal Government step in? They didn't want to when the Auburn Dam was proposed and Congressman John Doolittle (R) was pushing it in a Republican controlled congress.
As for the regulation, we're fine with it. Then again, we don't water when it's raining. We shut the shower off when soaping up. We shut the water off while brushing our teeth or washing our hands. I could go on, but there are many ways to conserve water. If people would do it voluntarily, there would be no need for regulations. It's called common sense.
That's the problem, these same elected officials have been screwing Californians with their pandering to unions (pensions). CA has billions in unfunded liabilities and they don't have the money for it.
You are that neighbor that waters at high noon when it is 100 degrees out. You must be proud.
As one poster mentioned above desalination plants need to become the norm if the state can afford them. They opened one in Carlsbad a few years ago and it is only a drop in the bucket, pun intended.
Well, we went through a "voluntary" conservation period and then when it became "mandatory" they based their reductions on the rate last used. That really hosed the do gooders that had already reduced their usage.
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Originally Posted by rupp-certified
2027? 2050?!?!?! Are they insane?
If they don't have working desalination plants servicing the coast of California by 2027 it's abject failure. They should plan on moving forward, not backward.
The Earth is 2/3 water... there's no water shortage, just idiots who don't want to transport it effectively.
Go ahead and try drinking seawater, let us know how that works out.
In this case, the Cal. govt. is correct. They do need to use their water wiser. If I remember corectly, southern Ca. still has green laws? Thats just pure waste. Many cities in the southwest have no lawns, because of the lack of water. Tuscon, Az. has almost no green lawns.
55 gal. per person per day is plenty of water for daily needs. We have three living in an Rv, and our weekly water usage is only about 350 gal. for 3 of us.
Most places in the west have some water supply issues. Many have rules and limits on how much can be used. Ca. is just being smart.
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Starting in grade school in Israel, children are taught about the sanctity of water. You don't run the water while brushing your teeth. For showering, you spray yourself with water, turn the water off, wash yourself, and then rinse.
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust
Do most people not do this? It seems like common sense...
For brushing one's teeth, it's pretty much common sense all over the planet. For the showering part, I've been to central Israel numerous times for decades and have never showered that way at home. At the beach for sure, but not at home.
California's 55 Gal law by 2050 is the high of the spectrum of what Israeli's use now on a daily basis per household. Let's see if Californians can survive on the World Health Organization recommendation of 25 gallons per person per day.
In this case, the Cal. govt. is correct. They do need to use their water wiser. If I remember corectly, southern Ca. still has green laws? Thats just pure waste. Many cities in the southwest have no lawns, because of the lack of water. Tuscon, Az. has almost no green lawns.
55 gal. per person per day is plenty of water for daily needs. We have three living in an Rv, and our weekly water usage is only about 350 gal. for 3 of us.
Most places in the west have some water supply issues. Many have rules and limits on how much can be used. Ca. is just being smart.
Even in Florida, we have rationing during the dry season. During the wet season, we just drain the excess into the ocean.
I refuse to conserve until the government stops importing people nobody asked for.
We have plenty of water for the population of 1970, 1980, 1900, even 2000. We don't have water for the millions of uninvited squatters and invaders, and it is not MY problem.
So don't ask me to conserve, when you've done nothing to prevent the situation and in fact did the opposite.
Eff that!
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It seems like common sense...
