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Old 06-23-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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where are you finding abortions for 500... more like 2-3k
I don't understand why tax payer money should ever go to abortion or birth control.

For a large percentage of the population, there is a moral objection to either and taxpayers should not liable for those services.

They should be in prison if they can't take care of their children, not vacations at treatment centers to find men to get pregnant with again so the cycle repeats multiple times.

If women can't afford a baby, they shouldn't get pregnant. It is very simple, it is just the liberals complicate it.

If they have a baby they can't afford and don't raise the baby correctly, they should be sent to prison work camps for a very long time.
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Opioid crisis sending thousands of children into foster care | TheHill

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...ster-care.html

It seems like more women than ever are getting pregnant when they can't even take care of themselves.

Liberals have been treating children and parenthood as a joke since the early 70s and now there is a generation of children that will be growing up in foster homes.

Unlike former generations that had family-values, there is all of the sudden a massive amount of females who are having babies and all of the sudden and out of blue they decide parenting isn't for them so they just send their children to foster homes so they can have a vacation from parenthood and form a new relationship and maybe have another baby.

Why are so many female heroin addicts with codependency problems getting pregnant and having as many babies as they can.

I think much of the problem is Obamacare and the health exchanges sending these female heroin addicts to "treatment" for a only a tiny out of pocket expense and then they meet a heroin addict male and the female with issues starts having babies to keep the man.

This increase in foster care didn't start until around the time Obamacare was implemented. So one can't help but conclude that codependent females are forming relationships with men in treatment and having babies and relapsing.

Sadly, because of Obamacare and the free "treatment" programs these female heroin addicts are there is a tremendous amount of children in foster care that hard-working taxpayers are paying for.

Seems like unlike past generations there are a tremendous amount of lonely millennial females who are getting pregnant when they can't take of themselves and then all of the sudden they decide they don't want the baby and that the state should take care of it, while they go on a vacation from parenthood at the taxpayer's expense.
This is nothing new. It has been going on for decades.

I had two co-workers during the early 2000’s whose daughters refused to take care of their children because “they couldn’t handle it”. They could handle, however, drinking, drugging and whoring. They were not millenials.

The trend has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare.
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Old 06-23-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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actually sanger was much about eugenics, the master race, racism, abortions, and the founding of PP... a leftist organization for the exterminations of those unfit (especially blacks)


mandatory sterilization....that would be called eugenics....started by the left...infact the founder of planned parenthood , maggy singer, major supporter of eugenics program of the liberals

just look at eugenics.... and planned parent hood founder Margaret sanger the Nazi white supremacist, who founded PPH to help rid the world of blacks

yep liberalism at its finest
Shoddy references. Sanger was not about eugenics. She was about putting information about sex & conception & contraception in the hands of the families most affected - working class families that lived in tenements & where the mothers of large families were dying from overwork, poor health, too many children too close together. Sanger was of Irish descent, & worked as a nurse in the tenements - so she was despised on both counts. Her own mother died of overwork & too many kids one right after another.

I don't recall that she supported eugenics. She hated abortion, PP had to wait until she left the organization to put abortion forward as a BC option. Sanger wasn't a Nazi, nor was she a White supremacist (I'm not sure the Boston brahmins & etc. considered the Irish to be Caucasian @ all - & I'm sure there was some clever argument to deny the Irish any consideration, @ first).

Nor was Sanger nor PP opposed to the existence of Blacks - I see that someone attacked that canard further on.

Was eugenics Leftist @ core? This far on, I can't tell. It was popular for a time among the US elites, & for much the same reason that collegiate football was put forward - there was concern that our young elite men were becoming too soft, too effeminate. Smashing heads & teeth would toughen 'em up, & instill the proper manly patriotic somewhat brutish American spirit in them.
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Old 06-23-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: London
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I don't understand why tax payer money should ever go to abortion or birth control.

For a large percentage of the population, there is a moral objection to either and taxpayers should not liable for those services.

They should be in prison if they can't take care of their children, not vacations at treatment centers to find men to get pregnant with again so the cycle repeats multiple times.

If women can't afford a baby, they shouldn't get pregnant. It is very simple, it is just the liberals complicate it.

If they have a baby they can't afford and don't raise the baby correctly, they should be sent to prison work camps for a very long time.
You sure you wouldn't prefer to live in North Korea? I hear there are no Californians there, and it's cheap there.
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Old 06-23-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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You seem to be pretty judgmental about something you probably don't know much about. Many people become addicted due to initially being prescribed pain killers for injuries or surgery. Not all people who have become addicted to heroin or prescription drugs are or were worthless non contributing members of society and certainly their addictions were not due to parenting.


I was once judgmental towards all addicts and even those who were on anti depressants and bipolar meds until I actually knew people who fell to addiction.
People I know came from good families and were for most of their life good hardworking contributing people as well as loving parents as were their siblings. Some I know have struggled and overcome their addiction, others have not.


I see over and over where one sibling will fall to crime or drug addiction while their brothers and sisters lead normal happy lives with normal happy families. How do you blame that on bad parenting?
The parent is a narcissist who designates one or more of their children as scapegoats of the family.
The parent is a narcissist who does not recognize this child as a human being and uses the child as something to be used for own purposes.
Child abuse and the rest are just so happy its not them.

Sortof how trump treats everyone.
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Old 06-23-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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They should be in prison if they can't take care of their children, not vacations at treatment centers to find men to get pregnant with again so the cycle repeats multiple times.
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$30K per year on the low end and 50K+ in general.
Good Solution!
And, no, "work camps" won't make enough to offset that.
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That nonsense has been debunked over and over, so why go there?


Did Margaret Sanger believe African-Americans "should be eliminated"? | PolitiFact New Hampshire
so a leftist showed how evil leftism/liberalism is an leftist polifact (whichg can not be believed) supposedly debunks it to show how angelic the leftists are...…

sorry not buying the BS
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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eugenics... a leftist..aka Nazi (national socialists) scheme of which the American liberals embraced... and continue to embrace the population control factor...ie bill gates, George soros et al, saying we need to eliminate half the population....

what is next from the liberals...extermination camps?

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Old 06-23-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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Not on the public dollar. That, really is the point. Personal responsibility. With the gofundme fashion it should be easy to gofundmyabortion if either or or both the egg provider, sperm contributor are unwilling or unable to pay the cost.

Simple and no strong arm robbery of innocent tax payers.
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Making it easier for women in all states to obtain abortions would help.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Barking in the wrong forest altogether

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what is next from the liberals...extermination camps?
No, as I recall, concentration camps were a British invention, in the Boer War - & they managed to starve or kill of disease & exposure a large number of women, children & old men & women. You can look up the information. (Or see https://www.britannica.com/topic/concentration-camp)

The death camps were a Nazi invention, TMK. By the end of the war, they finally realized that the labor they extracted from their prisoners was irreplaceable, no replacements were forthcoming, & they only executed people who were too sick or exhausted to work any further. (Also @ the same URL.)

No one ever called the British Empire liberal - although they were better than most of the alternatives. Nazi Germany, of course, was far beyond the Pale.
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