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Old 06-30-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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Do you condone and actively support the State?

If so, you condone and actively support theft, killing, bullying, etc.
You made the accusation. I asked you where, particularly in this thread, where I said or implied those things. Apparently you are too inept to do so. You are incompetent.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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That is not true. Libertarians are NOT anti government. They are for a smaller government.
Exactly how much "government" AKA democracy will they tolerate????....LOL

SMALL GOVERNMENT=WEAK GOVERNMENT= CORPORATE TAKEOVER

didn't you ever watch robocop?
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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Sounds like you've done your research.

I seem to notice the same standard strategy in privatization attempts defund/slander and then attempt to privatize a service that the taxpayer paid to build/construct...like a park. First you use the tax dollars to construct a facility then you cut off funding to that facility so that it falls apart then you slander it by saying that it doesn't work for some other reason and then you sell it to a private Corporation. Lol greatest tax theft in American history next to the drug war and civil asset forfeiture this is some epic Third World stuff

it's theft because you're trying to sell something that you don't own.

Quite possibly the best evidence that a once great european style democracy is slowly and quietly becoming the 3rd world!!!

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This is exactly how conservatives and "libertarians" with ill defined and amorphous concepts of property work. They use da guberment to make themselves money, only differently. I am also quite sure they would encourage liquidating all social organization arrayed against them . "Hey why are you all cooperating like socialists?" You should be at home stuffing your root cellar while I appropriate this property for my libertarian paradise".
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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Exactly how much "government" AKA democracy will they tolerate????....LOL

SMALL GOVERNMENT=WEAK GOVERNMENT= CORPORATE TAKEOVER

didn't you ever watch robocop?
There is NO single answer. No political belief has everyone believing 100% the same positions so your question is a throw away.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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Do you condone and actively support the State?

If so, you condone and actively support theft, killing, bullying, etc.
Actually corporate interests RUN the state soooo, all this theft killings and bully tactics IS NOT IN the states interests its in corporate interests.

Oil company professionals invading the middle east=corporate oil war

We have a privatized for-profit corporate government now...

this is what libertarian Paradise looks like!!!
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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That is not true. Libertarians are NOT anti government. They are for a smaller government.
See there is the problem again. Here you have a philosophy where you use undefined abstractions like "small" just like you do "property", which in reality could stand for anything.

The typical Internet liberation has these axiomatic aphorisms that glide so smoothly off the tongue. Only a monster would be against the non aggression principle and so on.


Now if you were to suggest a powerful, focused, unambiguous government that limits its scale to its charter of supporting the liberty of the inhabitants , you might be getting somewhere. Doing one thing well might be what you have in mind , but its so easily redefined as weak and feeble by those that oppose you.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Actually corporate interests RUN the state soooo, all this theft killings and bully tactics IS NOT IN the states interests its in corporate interests.

Oil company professionals invading the middle east=corporate oil war

We have a privatized for-profit corporate government now...

this is what libertarian Paradise looks like!!!
I know of NO Libertarians that support the wars. Ron Paul was against them.

Most (R)'s and (D)'s have supported them.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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Actually corporate interests RUN the state soooo, all this theft killings and bully tactics IS NOT IN the states interests its in corporate interests.

Oil company professionals invading the middle east=corporate oil war

We have a privatized for-profit corporate government now...

this is what libertarian Paradise looks like!!!
How convenient that you ignore that it does so with the power the likes of you have granted da guberment. You are delusional to suggest that libertarian principles of the proven kind feed coroprate power. Corporation are legal entities created by da guberment in the first place.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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See there is the problem again. Here you have a philosophy where you use undefined abstractions like "small" just like you do "property", which in reality could stand for anything.

BIGGER or MORE or EXPANDED can stand for anything also.

I simply corrected an incorrect statement. Not writing a book.

Besides, I said "smaller".
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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There is NO single answer. No political belief has everyone believing 100% the same positions so your question is a throw away.
You're correct there is no 100%

51% is as good as it gets that's the whole theory behind democracy

states rights, Democratic European process , and no bribery whatsoever that's As Good As It Gets

Problem is the president got 46% of the vote and we have organizations like A.L.E.C. selling are country to corporations
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