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I am in agreement on all but this........ but I think that the background check should include mental illness. But that brings up a plethora of problems / arguments of it's own.
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So you're for gun control as well? lol
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Gun control is three in the red at 30 feet in three seconds.
Backround check=gun control
No wonder you like pro gun controller Trump
Second... conservatives have voted in favor of gun laws, so that's just not true.
What in the world? Did all of you really vote for Trump because you feared the 2nd amendment was going to vanish?
That was just silly. It was never going to vanish. You'd need a Constitutional Congress to strike an Amendment and nobody wants to do that, not really. Especially not with the first few amendments. They are seen as being relatively untouchable by most political scholars.
Does not mean we will never have any sort of gun controls or restrictions on gun types, etc. But, removal of the 2nd was just not on the table.
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What Constitutional rights are being chipped away and how has this turned the country 'semi-fascist?'
Have been chipped away over the past 40-50 years... Until beginning to be restored now. The First, Second, Fourth, and Fifth, at a minimum. Chipping away at those Constitutional Rights has greatly diminished individual liberties in our country, which are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, ratified as the first ten Amendments of the US Constitution in 1791.
Second... conservatives have voted in favor of gun laws, so that's just not true.
What in the world? Did all of you really vote for Trump because you feared the 2nd amendment was going to vanish?
That was just silly. It was never going to vanish. You'd need a Constitutional Congress to strike an Amendment and nobody wants to do that, not really. Especially not with the first few amendments. They are seen as being relatively untouchable by most political scholars.
Does not mean we will never have any sort of gun controls or restrictions on gun types, etc. But, removal of the 2nd was just not on the table.
No........ I voted for Trump to stack the Supreme Court with justices that will adhere as closely as possible to the original intent of the constitution. I am no fan of the man himself, I view him as I view any other politician, just a tool to get the job done. The 2nd is never going away, but what I consider to be unreasonable restrictions are always a possibility.
Chalk up two more people who feel that American society would be safer and more free if government were given the power to decide who can carry a gun and who can't.
I'm afraid vast majority of Americans agree we'd be safer if the mentally ill did not carry guns.
SCOTUS Justices' job is to uphold the Constitution, not to rewrite it or even "legislate from the bench"
Sounds like you are asking them to legislate from the bench. They will interpret and uphold the constitution, even when their understanding of it differs from yours.
I think some amendment to the gun issue is necessary. I wish I was smart enough to produce an amendment that makes sense for all, but I don't.
That's because ANY attempt to restrict the right for all law-abiding citizens, will not make sense. Every single one of them, no matter how well-intentioned, will cause (or permit) far more harm than good. That's why the people who wrote and ratified the Const and BOR, included a cast iron law forbidding government from having ANY say in who can have a gun and who can't. It's got nothing to do with your being "smart enough".
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I may not like guns, but I believe in the rights of others to own them.
Good to hear.
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I don't know about guns to know what would be considered "assault" that no one really needs outside of competitive reasons.
Your belief in the rights of others to own guns, just lasted about 10 seconds before you threw it right out the window. You're already looking for excuses (not even valid ones) for government to step in and decide that you can't own "certain types" of guns.
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If what you are saying is true about criminal coddling making the needs to carry even more important, that in itself shows such a glaring problem in society in general.
That is absolutely true, there is no "if". And it's a problem George Washington faced (so did Julius Caesar, and Alley Oop the caveman). And it can never be fully eradicated, because there will always be some humans in every society who want to take what somebody else earned without their permission, or wants to wreak violence on somebody who did nothing to deserve it. It can only be held in check, even as it keeps popping up in new locations.
And history has shown over and over, that the most effective way to hold it in check, is for the bad guys to constantly be aware that even if most people aren't bothering to carry the gun they have the right to, a few in the crowd do, and the bad guy can expect a bullet or two from an unknown direction if he even tries to stab a guy at an ATM, or point a gun at an old lady and steal her purse etc. Then a lot of bad guys (not all) will think twice about committing their crime at all. Presto, a reduction in crime, and an increase in safety, all without a shot being fired.
NO OTHER so-called "gun control" legislation has ever provided that, in the history of this country. And yet some people keep trying the same thing over and over, anyway.
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