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Old 06-29-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No, I don't excuse Milo either. It's just that very few people had heard about what he stated, until after the attack at the newspaper, so the odds that the shooter heard it are very slight, and to categorically state that Milo's statement precipitated the attack is baseless, until you know for a fact that he did see it and acted upon it.
No one knows.

That has never stopped people from having opinions which are not facts.

Maybe this incident will compel Milo to moderate his trolls. I know I would if I were in his shoes. Or maybe it will compel him to double down.

Same deal with Trump. One thing to disagree. Referring to media as the enemy is over the top rhetoric, no matter which media or ideology.

Shooter is a whack job.

 
Old 06-29-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by t206 View Post
Your assumption seems to be that either:

a) People are guilty until proven innocent

or

b) Our police and judicial system should be given the right to restrict rights because they assume you might be dangerous

How about we skip all of that and put the focus where it belongs, which would be on identifying people with mental health issues, and getting them help. Or making sure that people with proven issues DO have their right to own a weapon more heavily scrutinized and restricted should just cause be found.

Your 20/20 hindsight is great and all, but about as reliable as a sundial in an eclipse

"Our police and judicial system should be given the right to restrict rights because they assume you might be dangerous"


They ALREADY have that.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Well, now everyone has heard them, and can see into the mind of a die-hard Trump supporter.

The shooting, however, was not politically motivated.
I have yet to see any statement from a neutral party, let alone proof, that the shooter was a Trump supporter at any level, die hard or not. If you've got something let us see it.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 10:27 AM
 
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This has already been mentioned, no doubt, but it bears repeating.

I heard it earlier on the radio and numbers are approximate based on memory (someone may have a link). About 70% of Americans believe the news media reports fake news. Lowest number were Dems at around 53% skeptical; 79+% of independents and 90% of Republicans.

Yet mainstream media keeps shooting themselves in the foot by blaming this unrelated newsroom shooting, planned for years, on Trump! Funny how they were quick to smother the story about the GOP baseball shooter as a lone wolf lunatic when he was a Bernie supporter who believed everything Rachel Madcow and left wing TV commentators said and it was clearly a political target.

This is why we don't believe their fake news!
 
Old 06-29-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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Classic

In the face of overwhelming evidence it was not political, you stick to ideologically driven supposition and speculation.
But I am sure if you or a loved one is ever accused of something, you'd have no problem with a jury comprised of the same type of people. Those that would ignore the facts of your innocence, and convict based on their own intuition, no matter how warped.
"In the face of overwhelming evidence it was not political," yet many of the press made it seem like it was.

The Mayor stated the Capitol is NOT a political motivated paper. B.S.

Their local stories are mostly NOT but when ii comes national issues it is.

Their editorials ARE.

They have "endorsed" every dem running for office for YEARS.

It is owned by the Balt. Sun which IS VERY political.

Democrats hold a majority on the city council.

The Mayor is a democrat.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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"Ramos is a common Portuguese/ Spanish name. Therefore he is at least of partial Hispanic ethnicity which is not a race."


Yes, Spanish would be Hispanic, and it's Hispanics themselves who now insist on being referred to as "brown" as distinct from "white." I didn't say Hispanic was a race and, indeed, it isn't, which is why one can't be "racist" against Hispanics...
 
Old 06-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by otterhere View Post
"Ramos is a common Portuguese/ Spanish name. Therefore he is at least of partial Hispanic ethnicity which is not a race."

Yes, Spanish would be Hispanic, and it's Hispanics themselves who now insist on being referred to as "brown" as distinct from "white." I didn't say Hispanic was a race and, indeed, it isn't, which is why one can't be "racist" against Hispanics...
No, Spanish / Portuguese are not Hispanic

Last name is inherited from generations back, while first name is given at birth.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The 719
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5 shot dead at the Capital

That's the heading of the paper there.

Hope some won't try to spin this into 5 shot dead at the Capitol.

In any case, I'm not going to cast judgement on how the left will receive the facts of this horrific act.

The fact is, the community, lead by their own police force admitted dropping the ball on not going after the threat via social media threats, and hopefully they and the rest of the Nation will follow suit.

Upshot, not President Donald J Trump's fault, not the gun's fault.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1012469065661763584

The hypocrisy is astounding. Spends years demonizing our press, calling them liars, anti-American, etc. then says this crap? What-ever.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1012469065661763584

The hypocrisy is astounding. Spends years demonizing our press, calling them liars, anti-American, etc. then says this crap? What-ever.
The liberal press are liars, anti-American, etc ..........It doesn't mean they should be shot on sight or at random. The hypocrisy is they call themselves news and reporters when they are mostly political activist with the propaganda offering.
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