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Old 06-29-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Because they keep having sex.
Is that how that happens?
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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My point is that the system is completely rotten. All attempts to create a fair economy in which everyone contributing in it gets a living wage is ridiculed as failed marxist ideology. I have to partly agree that those who call themselves socialists are mistaken in their methods. But I am convinced that the purpose of the economy is to benefit every single person, not just those on top able to manipulate it.
Everyone who works does benefit. They get paid. It's just that some think they're entitled to live beyond their means. They're not.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Everyone who works does benefit. They get paid. It's just that some think they're entitled to live beyond their means. They're not.
Real wages have been declining for decades, homeless is at all times high, people have to compensate with credit that they can't afford, all while eating crappy-subsidized junk food. Every step of the way there are very "smart" people taking advantage of this situation in the tune of billions of dollars.

The problem is not that "some think they're entitled". This is done by design for the purpose of increasing the wallets of a few.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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Real wages have been declining for decades, homeless is at all times high, people have to compensate with credit that they can't afford, all while eating crappy-subsidized junk food.
People earn what their labor/skills are worth. They need to live within their means. They're not entitled to any more than that.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Yeah, but...

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People earn what their labor/skills are worth. They need to live within their means. They're not entitled to any more than that.
It doesn't work that way.

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Old 06-29-2018, 05:51 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Don't they see how crowded the world is? Everywhere you go, it's full of people, the world is overpopulated, even small towns are fully congested, so why are people still breeding like there is no tomorrow? Maybe government should give people tax breaks for avoiding having children instead of having children.
This will be controversial but I think the real problem is the wrong people are having the most babies...
people that can least afford it!

Also in countries with poorest conditions/economies....populations are skyrocketing...
if this keeps up it’ll be serious problem for the world down the road....
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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People earn what their labor/skills are worth. They need to live within their means. They're not entitled to any more than that.

You are entitled to you opinion. It is however dangerously and criminally wrong.
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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It doesn't work that way.
Yes, it does.
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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You are entitled to you opinion. It is however dangerously and criminally wrong.
That's laughably absurd. It's not my opinion, it's a fact of the labor market. And there's nothing dangerous or criminal about it.
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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I live in a small town in one of the smallest states (Oregon) and believe me, it is overcrowded even here.
Oregon ranks 39th in population density for U.S. states. This is what I see. It isn't that Oregon as a whole is overcrowded. The situation is that the vast majority of Oregon's population is concentrated in one section of the state, Portland metropolitan area. 46.7% of Oregon's population lives in the Portland metro area. And then you add Salem, Eugene, and Corvallis, ALL in the Willamette Valley(pretty much the vast majority of Oregon's arable land), that is the lion's share of Oregon's population. Eastern Oregon, the semiarid and desert parts of the state (Oregon has a sizable amount of desert that alot of people don't know about), that is very sparsely populated for obvious reasons.

And then there is the Urban Growth Boundary in Oregon. This limits how far out you can build.

If you take a geographic look at the population, there are many places are overpopulated. There is also a lopsided geographic distribution of the population.

The question is not so much "too many people", but alot of people compared to the amount of arable land available.
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