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Old 06-29-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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The right wing is salivating over the possibility that a new Supreme Court might overturn Roe v. Wade. If that happens, it won't reduce the number of abortions, only who does them: a doctor or a friend with a coathanger.
I just checked. This didn't even make my top 50 list.

 
Old 06-29-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Abolishing abortions in a state or nationwide will simply result in women getting the procedure done in an unsafe environment by people lacking the proper medical expertise. It is the same way that outlawing something simply results in people finding another way to obtain it.
Gun ban in a state or nationwide will simply result in people getting the guns from an unsafe environment. It is the same way that outlawing something simply results in people finding another way to obtain it.

 
Old 06-29-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Gun ban in a state or nationwide will simply result in people getting the guns from an unsafe environment. It is the same way that outlawing something simply results in people finding another way to obtain it.

Oh, here we go again with the false equivalencies. Sigh. Is it so damn difficult to stay on the topic?
 
Old 06-29-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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OP, can't say yes or no.

But at least the gov will not be complicit in the murdering of tens of millions of innocent babies.

That is the purview of the dems...whose murder camps are hopefully on their last legs.

Why are you ignoring the fact that in order for Roe vs Wade to become the law of the land in the first place the Supreme Court weighed the opinions of leading scientists and religious leaders and who could NOT agree with when life begins. Many religions do not believe conception begins at birth and therefore many of us do not believe abortion is murder and most certainly NOT murder before viability outside of the womb. Very few abortions take place in the last trimester and those that do are for good, sound medical reasons that are already well regulated by law. You can scream 'murder' until the end of time but that doesn't make it a fact.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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Not true. Desperate people do desperate things and you can't say with a straight face that the rate of abortions went up after legalization because back alley abortions were not tracked. I personally know a person who died from a back alley abortion when we were in high school. Safe, legal and rare is what we should all be working towards. Making abortions illegal is not going to change the reasons why woman and couples seek them.

Abortions have been taking place since biblical times when they'd drop large rocks on bellies. They aren't going to stop just by changing the law. All we'll do is return to dangerous back alley abortions that will kill and maim woman and fill up our prisons with women and people who try to preform legal abortions. Returning the issue to states is a joke. Poor women won't be able to afford going.
^100% this. Great post, WW.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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That makes no sense. A woman can empower herself by making sure that she's using contraceptives if she wants to avoid pregnancy. Women are NOT helpless creatures subject to men's whims and the results of such. Good grief! How incredibly repulsively sexist.
You are the one who,is sexist by putting the responsibility all on the female. Takes 2 to make a baby and both have responsibility. You dont want any part of the responsibility. I stand by my earlier post.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Overturning Roe v Wade Will Not Reduce the Number of Abortions


But it will be just another example of the delight the allegedly 'less government' crowd takes in having more government control of peoples' lives when it suits their agenda.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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You are the one who,is sexist by putting the responsibility all on the female. Takes 2 to make a baby and both have responsibility. You dont want any part of the responsibility. I stand by my earlier post.
LOL!

Most men can’t get pregnant.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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This is just more squawking from the left because they know that they are powerless in all of this now and they're trying to find ANYTHING to rally their voter base up.

No one is interested in overturning anything considered settled law. The only people i hear talking about Roe v Wade are liberals and Democrats.

They really have the news debating a SCOTUS pick possibly over turning the Civil Rights Laws, Voting Acts etc...it's just flat our ridiculous

Republicans never said anything remotely about wanting to overturn any of that.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: crafton pa
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Oh, here we go again with the false equivalencies. Sigh. Is it so damn difficult to stay on the topic?
How is it a false equivalence? Both statements are of the form “Banning X will not reduce the number of X”. I din’t know the truth or falsity of the claim, but the logic is that if you make something illegal that people want, they will get it illegally. How does it change when you substitute X=guns instead of X=abortions? That is other than the fact you WANT guns banned, but not abortions.
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