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Old 07-01-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Boston
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make it an administrative fee, get them out immediately.
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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make it an administrative fee, get them out immediately.
Impractical. Most simply will claim no funds. Now what?
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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We are done with being taken advantage of for our weak laws

That ended when Trump became President . It shouldn’t be a surprise as this is what he campaigned on and he’s fulfilling his campaign promises .

Other countries including Mexico have immigration laws too but the left doesn’t even mention that .

The European countries they fantasize about have immigration laws too and so does Canada .

Newsflash America isn’t the only country with immigration laws . It’s clear liberals want totally open borders and freebies for everyone including illegal aliens . Illegal immigration and weak enforcement in past admins already hurts the country and this would absolutely destroy the country .

We need zero tolerance because unfortunately give an inch they’ll take a mile .

We are done being taken advantage of .

People can come in IF they wait in line AND show merit and have potential to improve the country .

We should have zero tolerance on illegal immigration. It's illegal for a reason. And, as much as the left and their MSM allies try to conflate immigration and an invasion, those of us who pay attention know the difference and will continue to fight this tooth and nail.

My husband just got his citizenship, after a rightful 6 year wait and we are very happy and proud. We will vote for Republicans in 2018 and happily vote for Trump in 2020.
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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quarter century is plenty of time.

Then WHY haven't we solved the illegal immigration problem which has existed far longer than a quarter century?


Because many people have made a lot of $$$ from their cheap labor and merely get a slap on the wrist if caught.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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Then WHY haven't we solved the illegal immigration problem which has existed far longer than a quarter century?


Because many people have made a lot of $$$ from their cheap labor and merely get a slap on the wrist if caught.
Exactly why. I would favor 3 strikes and you're out-meaning business caught hiring illegals 3 times-all equity and assets seized. Officers barred, for life, from ever having an equity stake again.

Illegal aliens-first time caught-deported and barred from applying legally 5 years.

2nd time caught-barred from applying 25 years.

3rd time-barred for life.
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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Exactly why. I would favor 3 strikes and you're out-meaning business caught hiring illegals 3 times-all equity and assets seized. Officers barred, for life, from ever having an equity stake again.

Illegal aliens-first time caught-deported and barred from applying legally 5 years.

2nd time caught-barred from applying 25 years.

3rd time-barred for life.
Under Trump there have been several employers busted for hiring illegal aliens so it's a start. E-verify is something that the GOP pushed for but the Dems blocked it.
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Old 07-01-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Under Trump there have been several employers busted for hiring illegal aliens so it's a start. E-verify is something that the GOP pushed for but the Dems blocked it.
There have been periodic raids for decades. The last one by the present administration sounded more like an IRS raid than ICE.

An improved Everify was part of the gang of 8 proposal in 2013 which was killed by the Republican leadership in the house. Would not allow a vote because they knew it would pass.
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Japan doesn't allow immigrants into their country, and with their low fertility rate, there's a chronic shortage of workers, 1.26 applicants per job. Call for a plumber, it might take a few days for one to arrive, and imagine what they'd charge!
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Hmmm. So we have no obligation. No you broke it you fix it. What exactly is your belief system? I am having trouble identifying it, I know its not christian.



Fine. We'll fix it by taking the failed piece of **** country over and administering it like a colony.



You cool with that? Because taking in fake refugees doesn't "fix" a problem otherwise, and if you actually thought about it you'd understand why.





Your argument taken to its logical conclusion is that people in the South Side of Chicago facing gang violence should be able to seek asylum and claim to be refugees IN CANADA.
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Japan doesn't allow immigrants into their country, and with their low fertility rate, there's a chronic shortage of workers, 1.26 applicants per job. Call for a plumber, it might take a few days for one to arrive, and imagine what they'd charge!



Japan is rapidly moving to automation. In fact, they are ahead of the curve. In the next few decades a billion jobs are predicted to be made obsolete by automation. Meanwhile, people are still using 20th century arguments for 21st century realities.







What Japan will continue to be awarded with for being strict on immigration is a very peaceful, unified nation that is free and prosperous, and which will see no need to continue to clear cut forests, continue sprawling development or face resource shortages caused by the pyramid scheme and lies of need for perpetual population growth.
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