Senate OKs farm bill, setting up SNAP fight (wage, cost, school)

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

This is it in a nutshell. Their refusal to raise the minimum wage is largely responsible for working people getting food stamps.

33 states have set Minimum Wage higher than the Federal Minimum Wage.

There are thousands of regional economies in the US. Nothing Federal prevents any of them from establishing a Wage higher than FPL.

[Dark Unicorn]

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

No rule against working 2 part time jobs.

Except that all these part time employers want full time open availability I order to fill the schedule the way they want.... if you are trying to get a second job and try to limit availability at your first job you get your part time hours cute even more and to top it off won't (or very rarely theses days) find an employer to fill those gaps.... again since they also want full time availability.

[Spottednikes]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Employers have been shifting to part-time since the Reagan administration.

Actually more employers dropped people down to part time when Obamacare was started due to the requirement to provide health care insurance to full time employees. My brother was one of those that used to get about 44 hrs a week..he and his voice workers now get 29 hrs a week.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by Spottednikes

Actually more employers dropped people down to part time when Obamacare was started due to the requirement to provide health care insurance to full time employees. My brother was one of those that used to get about 44 hrs a week..he and his voice workers now get 29 hrs a week.

Many people used to get 32 hours a week. That's why the hours for part-time were set at 30 hours. If your brother was working 44 hours & not getting benefits, the employer was breaking the law.

[InformedConsent]

SNAP is a deleterious (harmful) program, anyway. Even the USDA has noticed there's a correlation between receiving Food Stamps and obesity. And the USDA OIG has recommended halting the overlapping of government free food services for the exact same daily meals.

The obesity rates of the poor on food stamps compared to the poor who aren't on food stamps, and compared to the rest of the population:

Income-eligible children on food stamps: 24%
Income-eligible children NOT on food stamps: 20%
Non-poor children who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 13%

Kids who get Food Stamps (and free school meals, and who knows how many additional Nutrition Service benefits) have an 85% higher obesity rate than kids who don't qualify for those benefits.

Income-eligible adults on food stamps: 44% obese
Income-eligible adults NOT on food stamps: 33% obese
Non-poor adults who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 32% obese

Adults who get Food Stamps (and who knows how many additional Nutrition Service benefits) have a 33.3% higher obesity rate than adults who qualify for those benefits but choose to not receive them.

Do the math, and recognize that this is a SIGNIFICANT problem.

Exhibit 5, here:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/defaul...-SNAP07-10.pdf

Also, it certainly does appear that the children of poor and low-income families who receive free school breakfast, lunch, etc., program meals, regardless of whether they get food stamps, are being overfed.

And to confirm, the USDA OIG (Office of the Inspector General) has found that a full 59% of families on Food Stamps also double-dip and triple-dip, or more, free food benefits from major Federal means-tested free food programs for the exact same daily meals:

Overlap and Duplication in Food and Nutrition Service's Nutrition Programs - USDA OIG
http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/27001-0001-10.pdf

Let that sink in... A full 59% of families on Food Stamps also double-dip and triple-dip, or more, free food benefits from major Federal means-tested free food programs for the exact same daily meals.

Are we really doing the poor any favors by causing their obesity by letting them double-dip and sometimes even triple-dip or more government free food program benefits, thereby enabling their overeating and ruining their health? They are disproportionately obese, and cost us a lot more tax money to pay for their obesity-related health problems, such as heart disease and diabetes.

[T-310]

All welfare should be eliminated. Hunger is a great motivator to get to work.

[miu]

Originally Posted by Dark Unicorn

Except that all these part time employers want full time open availability I order to fill the schedule the way they want.... if you are trying to get a second job and try to limit availability at your first job you get your part time hours cute even more and to top it off won't (or very rarely theses days) find an employer to fill those gaps.... again since they also want full time availability.

It's really not that hard to juggle several on call part time jobs. I do it all of the time. No big deal.

If someone is a GOOD worker, most employers will work with them on their work schedule. GOOD workers are always highly desirable. BAD workers are not worth keeping around anyway.

[Catgirl64]

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

No rule against working 2 part time jobs.

No rule against it, no, but it can be difficult unless both employers are sympathetic to scheduling needs. Some are great, others, not so much. If you work for someone who expects you to be available for any shift on any day, good luck.

[miu]

Originally Posted by Catgirl64

No rule against it, no, but it can be difficult unless both employers are sympathetic to scheduling needs. Some are great, others, not so much. If you work for someone who expects you to be available for any shift on any day, good luck.

True. However it's really NOT difficult to have several part time jobs. There are plenty of part time jobs that have set schedules.

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Uh no, their willingness to run an immoral food stamp scheme is responsible for people getting food stamps.
Wages on the other hand are negotiated between principles and subject to the law of supply and demand.

You obviously never worked at WalMart