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Old 07-06-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
The word 'secession' is not mentioned in either US or CSA Constitution.
That's what I thought.


So now I'm confused about your statement here:


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They adopted the same Constitution as the US Constitution with respect to secession, their States would have no right to leave the CSA.

What do you mean by this?
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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That's what I thought.


So now I'm confused about your statement here:





What do you mean by this?
As per the US Constitution, the United States of America could suppress an insurrection.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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As per the US Constitution, the United States of America could suppress an insurrection.
There was no clear Constitutional position that secession was illegal until Texas v. White in 1869. In fact, it appears as de facto legal as West Virginia was admitted as a northern state upon its secession from Virginia.


It's a moot point now as the Civil War and Texas v. White have settled the issue, but I don find it an interesting question.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:21 AM
 
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There was no clear Constitutional position that secession was illegal until Texas v. White in 1869. In fact, it appears as de facto legal as West Virginia was admitted as a northern state upon its secession from Virginia.


It's a moot point now as the Civil War and Texas v. White have settled the issue, [u]but I don find it an interesting question.[/b]
You do or don't find it an interesting question?

Either way, you might be interested in reading 'US Constitution & Secession' by Dwight Pitcaithley. I'd like to read this one as it's rather rare as books on the American Civil War go, it's unique in its focus & thorough in use of primary documents to support its conclusions.
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:41 AM
 
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We know that!


Whats a Neo Confederate?
Got a mirror handy?
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Old 07-07-2018, 04:13 AM
 
Location: NC
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Got a mirror handy?

getting personal, eh? dont forget neo-nazi, racist,bigot and all those other false labels you guys put on anyone with a different opinion.
how did a simple question trigger you that much?
your party is the party of the KKK, not mine.

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Old 07-07-2018, 06:01 AM
 
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We know that!


Whats a Neo Confederate?
(stating the obvious) it's disingenuous for you to claim you don't know what a neo-Confederate is.

Another way to phrase is Confederate-American i.e. a person who labels him or herself by hyphenation, with the Country of origin first then - American. Neo-Confederates are those who are still resisting assimilation into their new Country, the United States of America.

The more delusional say things like, 'South's gonna do it again!'

Do what?

Threaten to secede because you insist on owning people like property?

Instigate another American Civil War where millions of our people are maimed or killed?

Get beat & revise history?

What is the South gonna do?
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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You do or don't find it an interesting question?

Either way, you might be interested in reading 'US Constitution & Secession' by Dwight Pitcaithley. I'd like to read this one as it's rather rare as books on the American Civil War go, it's unique in its focus & thorough in use of primary documents to support its conclusions.

Oops! I DO find it interesting.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Sure, change the name of the park to placate weak-minded liberals. How about changing it to Donald J Trump park? That should keep everyone happy.
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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I don’t understand why anyone would support naming anything after confederate generals in this day in age.
because even though you dont agree with the way of life at that time, neither do i, they was still american, and even thought you think, the war was about one think, that doesnt mean he thought the same ideas.

the south honor confederate soliders because they are our kin, our grandfathers and uncles, blood is thicker than water, it just another political correctness scam because somebody got their feeling hurt that had nothing to do with it, because of their grandfathers and uncles, blood is thicker than water.

this was never an issue till somebody invented the political correctness mode and realize they can take something away, because their feeling was hurt
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