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Old 07-05-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: FL
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the " yugest" turnover in history...
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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We have been blessed by his resignation and hopefully blessed again by his indictment, conviction, and incarceration. He resigned now in hopes of a Trump pardon before he is impeached... don’t want to wait too long.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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Meet Andrew Wheeler, Scott Pruitt's replacement at EPA who could be long for the job

“With Andy Wheeler stepping in to replace Pruitt, I think we’ll see a change in style but not in substance,” Jeff Holmstead, a former deputy administrator of the EPA in the George W. Bush administration, told the Washington Examiner. “I really don’t think we’ll see a change in direction on any of the big regulatory reforms. Andy probably is the ideal person to lead EPA at this point.

Pruitt got a lot of regulatory reforms started, but he’s never worked a regulatory agency and didn’t fully understand the administrative process and what it would take to get them finalized. Andy certainly does. He’s worked on these issues for years and may actually be more effective than Pruitt when it comes to carrying out the reforms that Pruitt started.”
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is this hard?
When Republicans took over they refused to give Obama the money he wanted. The EPA has been getting smaller and that trend will continue.
Obama took over a $7.5B EPA budget in 2008. Within 2 years he had increased budget by nearly 50%.


Proposed EPA budget for 2019 is $6.164B. Do you STILL have "questions" about who will downsize the government?
Congress controls the budget for the various agencies, not the president and I believe it was a republican congress in place in 2010. Outside of the 2010 the budget has been fairly close to $8B and the workforce has been fairly steady.


https://www.epa.gov/planandbudget/budget
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: *
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And not one mention of his numerous ethics violations. Because Trump doesn't care about honest, ethical behavior of a federal employee. Unless he does.
If he cared about honest & ethical behavior, he'd get rid of the 'Foreclosure King'. As it is, he hired him to get tips.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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If his successor receives the identical same treatment, then you will know that Pruitt was telling the truth.

If the new EPA administrator, Andrew Wheeler, is allowed to do his work with only policy related attacks, then Pruitt was shifting responsibility and being a child.

Which of these scenarios do you think we are going to see now from the "politics of personal destruction" Democrat left?

Exactly.

Yes, I'm going to have policy disagreements with anyone Trump appoints. But what Pruitt did was corrupt on a PERSONAL level. The fact that attacks on his improper, corrupt and very possibly criminal behavior felt personal to him was because it was. None of the things he's being investigated for has anything to do with policy, just his sense of entitlement that he thought he was allowed to run the EPA like his own little fiefdom, with serfs (paid by taxpayers) at his beck and call for all of his whims.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Um ... that's the exact opposite of the point I was making. My point was having a Toyota Corolla go 400,000 miles is a great thing! If you can buy a car that can do that, then why buy anything else?? Just to sweeten the deal, 8 of the 10 most American made cars at the time were all Japanese with the Toyota Camry holding the top spot. The US automakers were dragging their feet at copying the things that made a 400K Corolla possible and making their cars in foreign countries. The EPA and our government weren't helping them improve. They were enabling them to keep being terrible when the free market would have forced their hand much sooner. How on earth did the EPA's existence help out with any of that?

The trajectory obviously isn't what you'd like it to be. The population of planet Earth continues to increase and each human being on this planet is consuming more energy, not less. Fossil fuels will run out sooner or later and we'll have to go 100% renewable energy eventually. Biofuels, solar and wind can help, but they can't crank out enough power. Nuclear energy -- a significantly cleaned up version of it -- almost certainly can. Humanity will no doubt come up with other ideas, but that's the best energy source we have right now. How's the EPA doing at getting us off of coal and onto nuclear?
One of the requirements in 2009 along with better design was increased mileage requirements, Europe was already meeting the standards so how did that put us at a disadvantage. The targets for most countries are well above ours so why did we need to change. But I do agree that our government was protecting a poor product.


Trump recently asked Rick Perry to find a way to subsidize failing cola fired plants, makes no sense. The EPA has yet to change the air quality requirements for the coal fired plants that was put in place, but they are trying.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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Yes, he’s gone but won’t be forgotten. We will have to endure the damage done to the environment for a long time now as the right doesn’t care about nothing but Trump and how he is going to stack the Supreme Court.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: FL
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What always bothers me with these types of things is that Trump will turn around and find somebody even worse.
Exactly, but what self-respecting person would work for him?
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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Exactly.

Yes, I'm going to have policy disagreements with anyone Trump appoints. But what Pruitt did was corrupt on a PERSONAL level. The fact that attacks on his improper, corrupt and very possibly criminal behavior felt personal to him was because it was. None of the things he's being investigated for has anything to do with policy, just his sense of entitlement that he thought he was allowed to run the EPA like his own little fiefdom, with serfs (paid by taxpayers) at his beck and call for all of his whims.
It appears to me that some of these investigations are a result of selfish stupidity by Pruitt. But even more were just made up lies by the Democrat left and the press. The selfish stupidity is not wanted in an EPA administrator under a Republican president, who is aggressively trying to clean out the proverbial stables of Hercules after eight years of Obama. Of course this kind of behavior by an Obama EPA administrator would have been ignored, or dismissed as a "phony scandal". We saw a lot of that under Obama, actually.

Pruitt and everyone knew there would be close scrutiny with the agenda he was working on, including overturning a lot of Obama's "Climate change" agenda. Pruitt should have been more careful. This was the case in some instances, but a lot of the other accusations against him were just flat out lies.

Will we see more of the baseless smear tactics by the Democrat left? I hope not, but time will tell. If we see more of the same kind of hysterical rhetoric, it will be time to turn the rhetorical guns on the shameless Democrat left and the media for demonstrating yet again what a bunch of relentless, unprincipled and untrustworthy liars they constantly are.

In any case, Andrew Wheeler will continue with agenda that Scott Pruitt started, without slowing down, and maybe even with some speeding up. Watch and see.
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