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I see him alienating us, causing a trade war which is gonna come back and bite us.
I don't think he's alienating many. American is divided and that is becoming more apparent. I think the alienation process began on the left several election cycles ago with their embrace of identity politics.
Sure, the trade war, or more accurately, protectionist policies are probably not great economics - but when is the last time we had a commander in chief who took economics into account?
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Seperating families(who should not be here but still should not have had that done to them) then blaming the dems like he's not the one that initiated that fiasco.
Minor fiasco, embarrassingly reported by the MSM - who are growing increasingly embarrassing. The main issues are with illegal immigration, and immigration in general; both areas in which Trump's opinions are not nearly as controversial as CNN may lead us to believe.
We got through 8 years of Obama and kept the Clintons in politics for nearly 3 decades. Trump's foibles are minor compared to them.
Could you please explain your thinking, especially as relates to Obama, since that's more recent?
I'm trying to imagine what you consider to be Trump's minor "foibles." He's had three marriages, fathering children in each, while being known as a mostly uninterested father. He has bragged about his adultery. He describes his own daughter in distastefully sexual terms. He has been involved in multiple bankruptcies. He has stiffed people, refusing to pay them. He has gotten in trouble with the government for his racist business policies. He is alienating our traditional democratic allies and cozying up to authoritarian dictators. He lies incessantly, about everything, even about the height of his buildings. He insults people right and left. He makes statements that are totally wrong, such as the idiocy about the Wisconsin elections, but then refuses to retract or apologize, and in fact sometimes keeps right on repeating them. He has advocated violence toward people who don't agree with him. He is flounderingly inarticulate, but tends to be grandiose and inflammatory. He is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself on an unthinkable scale of conflict of interest.
And I'm not even going into his specific dim-witted political ideas or policies, such as his off-handedly threatening nuclear war.
Most normal people would not consider these "foibles."
What exactly do you find worse about Obama, in comparison?
By the way, nice try, Chicano, but you don't seem to be getting many real answers.
Could you please explain your thinking, especially as relates to Obama, since that's more recent?
I'm trying to imagine what you consider to be Trump's minor "foibles." He's had three marriages, fathering children in each, while being known as a mostly uninterested father. He has bragged about his adultery. He describes his own daughter in distastefully sexual terms. He has been involved in multiple bankruptcies. He has stiffed people, refusing to pay them. He has gotten in trouble with the government for his racist business policies. He is alienating our traditional democratic allies and cozying up to authoritarian dictators. He lies incessantly, about everything, even about the height of his buildings. He insults people right and left. He makes statements that are totally wrong, such as the idiocy about the Wisconsin elections, but then refuses to retract or apologize, and in fact sometimes keeps right on repeating them. He has advocated violence toward people who don't agree with him. He is flounderingly inarticulate, but tends to be grandiose and inflammatory. He is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself on an unthinkable scale of conflict of interest.
And I'm not even going into his specific dim-witted political ideas or policies, such as his off-handedly threatening nuclear war.
Most normal people would not consider these "foibles."
What exactly do you find worse about Obama, in comparison?
By the way, nice try, Chicano, but you don't seem to be getting many real answers.
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Those who haven't yet come to that realization likely won't ever. They have too much invested. They are in for the long haul regardless of what he says or does.
If you're talking about obama, hillary, many of those on the left and the lamestream then you're right. Perhaps over the next couple of years some of the left will finally begin to wake up.
Could you please explain your thinking, especially as relates to Obama, since that's more recent?
I'm trying to imagine what you consider to be Trump's minor "foibles." He's had three marriages, fathering children in each, while being known as a mostly uninterested father. He has bragged about his adultery. He describes his own daughter in distastefully sexual terms. He has been involved in multiple bankruptcies. He has stiffed people, refusing to pay them. He has gotten in trouble with the government for his racist business policies. He is alienating our traditional democratic allies and cozying up to authoritarian dictators. He lies incessantly, about everything, even about the height of his buildings. He insults people right and left. He makes statements that are totally wrong, such as the idiocy about the Wisconsin elections, but then refuses to retract or apologize, and in fact sometimes keeps right on repeating them. He has advocated violence toward people who don't agree with him. He is flounderingly inarticulate, but tends to be grandiose and inflammatory. He is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself on an unthinkable scale of conflict of interest.
And I'm not even going into his specific dim-witted political ideas or policies, such as his off-handedly threatening nuclear war.
Most normal people would not consider these "foibles."
What exactly do you find worse about Obama, in comparison?
By the way, nice try, Chicano, but you don't seem to be getting many real answers.
This post was extremely well written and thought-out. I can't rep you again. You will never see a post like this written by a Trump supporter. The logic exhibited by you is beyond most of them.
Could you please explain your thinking, especially as relates to Obama, since that's more recent?
I'm trying to imagine what you consider to be Trump's minor "foibles." He's had three marriages, fathering children in each, while being known as a mostly uninterested father. He has bragged about his adultery. He describes his own daughter in distastefully sexual terms. He has been involved in multiple bankruptcies. He has stiffed people, refusing to pay them. He has gotten in trouble with the government for his racist business policies. He is alienating our traditional democratic allies and cozying up to authoritarian dictators. He lies incessantly, about everything, even about the height of his buildings. He insults people right and left. He makes statements that are totally wrong, such as the idiocy about the Wisconsin elections, but then refuses to retract or apologize, and in fact sometimes keeps right on repeating them. He has advocated violence toward people who don't agree with him. He is flounderingly inarticulate, but tends to be grandiose and inflammatory. He is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself on an unthinkable scale of conflict of interest.
And I'm not even going into his specific dim-witted political ideas or policies, such as his off-handedly threatening nuclear war.
Most normal people would not consider these "foibles."
What exactly do you find worse about Obama, in comparison?
By the way, nice try, Chicano, but you don't seem to be getting many real answers.
^^^This.
And you didn't even mention Russia and all that goes along with it.
Could you please explain your thinking, especially as relates to Obama, since that's more recent?
I'm trying to imagine what you consider to be Trump's minor "foibles." He's had three marriages, fathering children in each, while being known as a mostly uninterested father. He has bragged about his adultery. He describes his own daughter in distastefully sexual terms. He has been involved in multiple bankruptcies. He has stiffed people, refusing to pay them. He has gotten in trouble with the government for his racist business policies. He is alienating our traditional democratic allies and cozying up to authoritarian dictators. He lies incessantly, about everything, even about the height of his buildings. He insults people right and left. He makes statements that are totally wrong, such as the idiocy about the Wisconsin elections, but then refuses to retract or apologize, and in fact sometimes keeps right on repeating them. He has advocated violence toward people who don't agree with him. He is flounderingly inarticulate, but tends to be grandiose and inflammatory. He is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself on an unthinkable scale of conflict of interest.
And I'm not even going into his specific dim-witted political ideas or policies, such as his off-handedly threatening nuclear war.
Most normal people would not consider these "foibles."
What exactly do you find worse about Obama, in comparison?
By the way, nice try, Chicano, but you don't seem to be getting many real answers.
Obama bowed for America. Trump stands up for America. Nuff said.
If you're talking about obama, hillary, many of those on the left and the lamestream then you're right. Perhaps over the next couple of years some of the left will finally begin to wake up.
Don't you mean "if we're lucky enough to still wake up, in a couple of years"?
Seems like he can do no wrong.
What's your limit for this guy? To those that are Trump fans.
So far, most of the things Trump is doing in terms of policy are great. So, I don’t have any major issues with it.
I am not sure about this tariff business. But I consider it to be more of an experiment and will see how it goes.
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