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Old 07-13-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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It's the art of the deal. Something Trump has been doing for years with good results. It keeps everyone on their toes.
Trump was unsuccessful last year with this approach and seems to have made no gains this year -- in spite of his claims (countries denying his claims).

No big agreement signed, no big statements saying they will work towards anything Trump has said.

2014 NATO unanimously agreed to increase their military spending to work towards a guideline of 2%...nothing has changed since then.

So he's not keeping anybody on their toes. He's doing nothing but blowing hot air.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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The EU's dependency on Russia is increasing.

-Natural Gas: Russia is the biggest supplier from 22% in 2001 to 30% in 2015.

-Oil: Russia is the biggest supplier with 1/3rd of all oil to the EU.

-Putin has connections to and profits personally off of this.

Europe increasingly dependent on (Russian) oil imports

Who is the Russian puppet? Those increasing dependence on Russia or those warning against it?

Great post...


I've asked this question before and nothing but crickets.....(not directed at you)


Why was NATO formed?


I still have yet to have the question answered, because if people did, they would understand they (Germany) are paying millions to the country that NATO was set up for....
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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40% of gas to Germany is coming from Russia,rest of gas is coming from Nederland+Norway+some others.
Russian gas is around 10% from all imported energy.

From NY link:
"Mr. Trump said Germany “will be getting 60 to 70 percent of their energy from Russia.”
In fact, that’s the total amount of its energy needs that Germany gets from any foreign source, and even its gas market is highly diversified. Most of the rest of the gas it imports comes from the Netherlands and Norway."

So, Trump was telling again figures from his own head.
You are very polite. Here in America we just call him what he is, a pathological liar.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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Uh right, by claiming an agreement of 2%, and a demand for 4%. And he calls it a ‘win’.
Newsflash- no one agreed to anything much other than the existing ratified agreement of 2% by 2024.
Basic negotiating says to always ask for more money than you will settle for. The problem was the defaulting countries said they'd pay but didn't. They knew Obama wouldn't enforce anything. Weak as water.

Perhaps you enjoy higher taxes, paying for things another country's citizen should be paying for.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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In a rare occurrence, British lawmakers have united across party lines (think democratic and republicans coming together) to condemn Donald Trump.

Conservatives who voted for Brexit want May to resign because she's screwed everything up. Nigel Farage predicted she'd be gone in three weeks, replaced by Boris Johnson.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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You are very polite. Here in America we just call him what he is, a pathological liar.
Unlike Obama, who never lied. Never. Never ever!
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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Great post...


I've asked this question before and nothing but crickets.....(not directed at you)


Why was NATO formed?


I still have yet to have the question answered, because if people did, they would understand they (Germany) are paying millions to the country that NATO was set up for....



NATO was formed for People like Putin.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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NATO was formed for People like Putin.


Yep, so you are cool that people within NATO are buying a lot of their oil from Russia.....fund the bad guy.....


And because of Russia:
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The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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I agree but point your thanks directly to the master of Trump, Mr.Putin...And say also hello to Kim Jong Un, he will be your best friend in future.

If Trump thinks America will be top dog of a three Country alliance he s got another thing coming.
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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Trump said NATO nations agreed to 4%. Macron and the rest call him a liar.

Trump says U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada and Canada is a national threat. Trudeau calls him a liar.

Trump says things with Kim are going splendidly. Pompeo calls this a lie.

Trump says remains of 200 sent home already. NK won't even show up for meeting to arrange this.

Trump gives a recorded interview criticizing May's Brexit and trade strategy. Trump then calls himself a liar.

Worst con man ever. Lord only know how the Putin deal will go down.

But we know who not to believe about it.

Sad state of affairs when the word of a Russian dictator is more believable than our own POTUS.
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