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Old 07-12-2018, 04:28 PM
 
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Since before the Civil War, the Text of the Constitution has been only a suggestion. Will we slowly see a change back to individual freedoms?
Would you care to back that up with anything - besides your own opinion?

Individual freedoms, by the way, is what you're going to be losing. Trump wants freedom for corporations - to spy on you, to pollute, etc. Individual freedoms will be diminishes - access to birth control, access to the court, the right to vote, etc.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If you reside here, you have consented.





Nope! The technicality they nail you on while you young and unknowing is .... The day you first registered to vote.
That is the day, you got it in your head, I consent to be governed by another human being and placing myself into their hands, no matter who wins(because it may not be your guy or gal)
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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... the Constitution is achieving exactly what it was intended to do, expand government power.
DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner!
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I never consented to the Constitution anyway so I really don't care.
Seriously? I thought you signed it right after you signed the social contract!
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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How about civilization? Did you consent to that?
Civilization doesn't come from a piece of paper.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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If you reside here, you have consented.
Neither he nor I ever signed a written copy of the Constitution.

Do rape victims consent to their attackers?
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Individual freedoms, by the way, is what you're going to be losing. Trump wants freedom for corporations - to spy on you, to pollute, etc. Individual freedoms will be diminishes - access to birth control, access to the court, the right to vote, etc.
Individual freedoms, by the way, cannot be taken away; they exist regardless. Someone may assume power over you and violate your natural rights, but it doesn't mean they are actually lost.

The only individual freedom that matters is property rights.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Civilization doesn't come from a piece of paper.
I sat down with the Constitution. We had a beer...or two. Went over the terms. I declined to sign its feet.
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The only individual freedom that matters is property rights.





and here I thought rights could not be taxed....


CLUE: Private property no longer exist.... LONG GONE! It is call Real Estate, not private property for a reason today. You don't have a right to your property. People with more guns than you own it and you better pay the rent, or they will evict you.
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I sat down with the Constitution. We had a beer...or two. Went over the terms. I declined to sign its feet.
Two beers? How were you able to consent?
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