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I really dont understand how conservatives always want to play good guy with a gun.
My life is worth so much more than some one taking a silly gun, candy bar, or bottle of booze
You're a terrorist's ideal hostage. You would have been nice and compliant as a passenger on the planes used to destroy the World Trade Center buildings.
Yeah, your life IS worth more than someone taking a silly gun, candy bar or bottle of booze. But imagine this; this thief might not just be a thief. They might go on to kill an innocent person using that gun, and some liberals will blame anyone and everything EXCEPT the killer, i.e. the gun, the store, the manager, etc.
When you let these criminals know that you're not willing to stop them or you condone their actions, they just get bolder and more brazen.
And as a manager of Academy it is his job to uphold whatever rules are in place. He should have known better.
Yeah, obviously, he knew company policy, but he couldn't possibly "know better".
Whether or not he had ESP, he did what a decent person who knew all the facts (including the fact the stolen gun was going was going to be used in a murder) would have done, and he did it at great personal sacrifice.
First of all they could have gotten the car info and plates if he was driving and if he was walking it would not be hard to find him. So to assume because they did not tackle him in the store meant that he was 100% going to be able to kill the person he wanted to kill is absurd. You have an armed black guy with a stolen gun the cops would be on that real fast. And it sounds like he was walking because he had the backpack on him with the ammo. You would think he would keep it in his car if he had one.
But really your advice to Academy would be to stop selling firearms? Seems to be what you are implying. Because any criminal reading this story knows they can walk in there and run out with a gun anytime they want. And Academy would be liable?
No. I don't know what mental gymnastics you used to imply or even suggest I was implying Academy stop selling firearms. I'm implying this manager stopped someone from stealing a firearm for potentially dire consequences involved in stolen firearms.
Dude had a bag pack with ammo, say he was able to escape and now has a loaded firearm. He either engages police, or worse. Or sells it to be used in a murder.
If anything you're suggesting the criminal be protected.
I can't wait for the ones who argued for gun control on the basis of x amount of firearms are lost or stolen per year, to come in and defend the actions of Academy or come to the criminals defense.
No. I don't know what mental gymnastics you used to imply or even suggest I was implying Academy stop selling firearms. I'm implying this manager stopped someone from stealing a firearm for potentially dire consequences involved in stolen firearms.
You implied that Academy can either keep doing with it is doing and eventually someone will steal a gun and kill someone with it and Academy has huge lawsuit to deal with or stop selling guns. You seem to say that they face a huge liability and they might.
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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87
Dude had a bag pack with ammo, say he was able to escape and now has a loaded firearm. He either engages police, or worse. Or sells it to be used in a murder.
If anything you're suggesting the criminal be protected.
The manager did not know this when he stopped the perp. Hindsight is great but he got lucky. I am fine with Academy changing the rules say if it involves stealing a firearm. Or hold a persons ID when they are checking out the firearms. But I don't blame Academy for adhering to the rules they have in place.
You implied that Academy can either keep doing with it is doing and eventually someone will steal a gun and kill someone with it and Academy has huge lawsuit to deal with or stop selling guns. You seem to say that they face a huge liability and they might.
The manager did not know this when he stopped the perp. Hindsight is great but he got lucky. I am fine with Academy changing the rules say if it involves stealing a firearm. Or hold a persons ID when they are checking out the firearms. But I don't blame Academy for adhering to the rules they have in place.
The employees were yelling stop him he stole a gun. Try reading the entire story before making this statement.
Such policy decisions should never be absolute. The decision should be made on a case by case basis by looking at the incident in its entirety. This was a case of a stolen firearm and ammunition. Had this person used this firearm in the act of another crime, including murder, then that would open Academy up to a liability claim in court. The results of the stopping of the thief, his professed intent to commit murder, and later praising the store employees could have been used as a public relations tool to show they take public and customer safety very seriously. Now had the manager began viciously beating the thief once in custody then that’s a different situation and warranted firing. But that didn’t happen. He was tackled and apprehended without further incident. He potentially stopped a mass murder. And for that corporate fired him.
IMHO, policy decisions need to be absolute. If you don't enforce policy by the book, then it's not policy and opens the company up to wrongful termination issues.
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