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We know the difference in non-profit and for-profit.
Apparently not.
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What you and others and the type article in the OP are doing is arguing for expanded Medicaid and a single payer system by playing on the emotions stirred up by pregnant women and pre mature babies. Its not about quality health care or having to drive an additional 30 miles but keeping sub par facilities open to service those who receive free or subsidized health insurance.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, none of which are backed up by any factual links that I can see ...
Oh, and if we had a single-payer system? We wouldn't need Medicaid.
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Originally Posted by lkb0714
A hospital not turning a profit is completely offset by the complications that can and do result from lack of access to delivery services in a timely manner. These are complications that routinely result in lifetime disabilities, and likely is part of the reason rural Americans are twice as likely to be on disability than urbanites.
And the people flinging insults around about a 21-year-old woman with three children (who was responsible enough to seek pre-natal care when she became pregnant) are the same people who don't want to contribute toward the cost of abortion or the costs of raising a child to adulthood - education, health care, food, shelter and clothing, etc.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Why?, though Im not sure where you are getting 70 miles.
Not sure where you aren't getting it. Your anecdotes have no bearing on the fact that the woman had to drive more than an hour to deliver her child.
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Originally Posted by lkb0714
They just aren't paying enough to make a profit for a for profit hospital. That is vastly different than supporting a hospital.
And what's really happening isn't that the hospitals are losing money - a good number of them aren't losing money at all. They're just not making a huge enough profit to satisfy their corporate shareholders.
Health care really ought not to be a for-profit business, yet our society continues to value money over life.
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
Perhaps there should be consequences such as having her tubes tied so it can't happen again? And perhaps CPS should monitor mothers like these very closely. There is a market for adoption.
People should not be able to stick society with the bill for recreational sex.
Mandated sterilization? Ja awol!
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Originally Posted by lkb0714
So you are against covering viagra on public health insurance programs then correct?
*snort*
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981
Many of these hospitals cannot afford to stay open. It has nothing to do with profits.
LOL, it has everything to do with profits. And not just profit, but enough profit.
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Originally Posted by Marlow
Forced sterilization? Really? Or maybe forced adoption?
Let me guess: You're also opposed to (1) abortion and (2) the government making long-acting reversible contraception to whoever wants it.
These are the same people who also are opposed to health care, education, food, and shelter for anyone who can't pull themselves up by their own bootstraps (or, in the case of children, bootie-straps).
She was turned away from multiple emergency rooms due to their lack of delivery services. Are you claiming that is not true?
It is 70 miles from the hospital that closed to the one that she delivered at.
And it is great that your friend was able to choose her delivery date, this woman, and many other like her, are not that lucky. Having to wait four hours to get to medical care to deliver is a mistake as a nation. It will absolutely result in more people being born with severe problems, and increase the payments of tax payers to support those people.
Yes. She drove from Kennett 17 miles to another hospital who had shut down their obstetrics years prior, although the hospital in Kennett referred their patients to Poplar Bluff 52 miles away and ambulance services were available she chose to go to a closed hospital to wait for an ambulance to come from where she just left, passed up another hospital to get to yet another hospital.
Her having to wait 4 hours was yet another bad decision on her part.
My friend did not choose her delivery date she prepared for the high risk delivery.
First, you keep saying 30 miles. It was at a minimum 70 miles. It is 70 miles from the hospital she was supposed to deliver at to the one she did deliver at. I don't get why you don't get that.
Second, many deliveries need medical intervention, in a timely manner, to prevent harm to the infant for things like cerebral palsy. CP is the most common cause for childhood disability, and is a lifetime disorder.
According to the article there were 2 hospitals within 20 miles, 2 within 30 miles. Who knows why she went to a hospital 70 miles away.
Many deliveries don't need medical intervention. From Kennett, where she lived, there were two ERs within 20 miles, two ER's within 30 miles according to the article. OB patients were referred to Poplar Bluff 52 miles away for delivery.
According to the article there were 2 hospitals within 20 miles, 2 within 30 miles. Who knows why she went to a hospital 70 miles away.
Many deliveries don't need medical intervention. From Kennett, where she lived, there were two ERs within 20 miles, two ER's within 30 miles according to the article. OB patients were referred to Poplar Bluff 52 miles away for delivery.
My guess is the expectant mom needed to go to a hospital that had services for her preemie twins. This is a delivery that needed medical intervention. Twin pregnancies are considered high risk.
One really has to be careful with these stories. We don't have all the information.
What does that have to do with the hospital closing?
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Originally Posted by randomparent
What indeed?
well since some of the posters suggested some of us are suggesting only rich people can breed, (it also has nothing to do with hospital closing) I just thought I need to contribute my .02
One should not cry and complain that they must pay for gas to travel an additional 50 miles for OBGYN services.
Which still has nothing to do with this mother's age, marital status, whether she should get sterilized, re-evaluate her life or whatever. There's no need for that agenda on this thread.
My guess is the expectant mom needed to go to a hospital that had services for her preemie twins. This is a delivery that needed medical intervention. Twin pregnancies are considered high risk.
One really has to be careful with these stories. We don't have all the information.
And she knew this when? And when did the hospital in Kennett and her physician begin making arrangements for her "high risk delivery" (twins are not necessarily high risk). Why did she not take an ambulance directly from Kennett to where she delivered? Or to Poplar Bluff where they would assess risk and could take her by ambulance on to an even larger hospital. Was the twin rivers medical center specialized enough to deliver her "high risk delivery" or would they have had to get her to Cape Girardeau anyway?
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