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Old 07-18-2018, 11:46 PM
 
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I never said they were from this century. I was giving examples of "strongmen" types.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongman_(politics)
Those were military dictators who saught to take over the world by force (at least Mussolini). There are no world leaders currently that come close to that. Every president has met with “strongmen”.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:28 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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So now the Democrat's mantra is America must be put first even if you think in certain situations America is wrong? One must have blind faith in our intelligence agencies because they're ours? And oh, we know they never lie

Sounds very authoritarian, sounds very unintelligent, sounds very conformist. No thanks.

When will the Democrat party become liberal again and value free thought?
Explain in what way you think we're "wrong" because our intelligence agencies gathered lots of evidence that Russians are cyber-attacking our election infrastructure.

Then explain if you consider yourself an American who pledges allegiance to the Stars & Stripes. Because you sure don't sound like one, comrade.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:29 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Ok look! Another butthurt Russia thread.
Da, comrade. Go back to reading your Pravda. You have nothing to add here.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:45 AM
 
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Explain in what way you think we're "wrong" because our intelligence agencies gathered lots of evidence that Russians are cyber-attacking our election infrastructure.

Then explain if you consider yourself an American who pledges allegiance to the Stars & Stripes. Because you sure don't sound like one, comrade.
What kind of timeline is this? Never thought we’d be the ones to tell conservatives to grow some balls. And no not gung ho war, but Trump just let them off the hook. We look like pushovers now. And we gave Russia incentive to do more.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:33 AM
 
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Explain in what way you think we're "wrong" because our intelligence agencies gathered lots of evidence that Russians are cyber-attacking our election infrastructure.

Then explain if you consider yourself an American who pledges allegiance to the Stars & Stripes. Because you sure don't sound like one, comrade.
Loyalty oaths, questioning my patriotism and/or my citizenship. Yup, sounds like McCarthyism to me.

Why don't you try to explain to the world why you think your IQ is higher than the water temperature in San Francisco?
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:36 AM
 
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What kind of timeline is this? Never thought we’d be the ones to tell conservatives to grow some balls. And no not gung ho war, but Trump just let them off the hook. We look like pushovers now. And we gave Russia incentive to do more.
It's not so much you guys are "gung ho" for war. It's more like you guys are dumb and allowing the establishment to frame the narrative so you want tougher policies on Russia and this entire witch hunt/paranoia has swept all of you like a virus. You can compare it to the antisemitism that swept Germany during Hitler, or the McCarthy hearings are my favorite.

When will you guys realize you're being played for useful idiots?
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:38 AM
 
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Stop using binary logic. No one is either good or bad. That doesn't change the fact that what the president said was in poor taste to say the least.
No it was not in poor taste. For us to move away from our disastrous foreign policy, we need to admit US culpability. The US is principally responsible for the sour relations between Russia-USA, and most of the world due to US policies of meddling and sabotaging governments it does not like.

You cannot pretend the US is some innocent angel and Russia is some menacing bully. This is ahistorical, it's inaccurate and while these narratives persist there will never be reconciliation.
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