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Old 07-19-2018, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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For all of you who can't legally own a gun anymore, you only have 13 more days to get your hands on one again!

3-D Printed Guns Will Soon Be Legal
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Aren't those things useless after firing once or twice? They sound incredibly impractical. Not to mention, criminals usually opt to acquire weapons illegally, and for less money than the cost of a typical hobby grade 3d printer.
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Aren't those things useless after firing once or twice? They sound incredibly impractical. Not to mention, criminals usually opt to acquire weapons illegally, and for less money than the cost of a typical hobby grade 3d printer.
There was an article some years ago that said most of them did fall apart pretty quickly - - but some lasted for a good twenty-five or so firings.

You might take that option if you want to get into a courtroom, airport, etc and had one victim in mind.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There was an article some years ago that said most of them did fall apart pretty quickly - - but some lasted for a good twenty-five or so firings.

You might take that option if you want to get into a courtroom, airport, etc and had one victim in mind.
You still have the rounds and springs that are metal.
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:37 AM
 
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Aren't those things useless after firing once or twice? They sound incredibly impractical. Not to mention, criminals usually opt to acquire weapons illegally, and for less money than the cost of a typical hobby grade 3d printer.

I'm not up on the tech completely but you have different grades of the material used to print, this will only improve with time. In fact gun designs or the design of anything could evolve with this tech becsue there is things you can do with it simply not possible with conventional machining and manufacturing. Think along the lines of a ball with an intricate structure inside it.



As is the case with any new tech it's costly but the prices will drop. This isnlt some novelty, it isn't going away and will only improve. Chances are these printers will become as ubiquitous as PC's. It's the Amazon slayer in the making, why bother ordering something for delivery if you could just buy the plan and print it.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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You still have the rounds and springs that are metal.
Caseless ammunition, plastic bullets, and more advanced plastic springs will render that invalid.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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You made a leap that you can not make. Legally through due process one's rights can be removed. What happened here does NOT make it legal for someone who has had their rights removed through due process to once again regain those rights.

It would still be illegal for them to print and own a gun.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Not necessarily, barring specific State Laws, the Federal prohibitions can only apply to firearms in interstate commerce. A design pulled off the internet might qualify, but they'd be hard-pressed to prove it. I believe Montana was considering a law that would allow released felons access to firearms that were manufactured and sold only within the state thus circumventing the Federal law.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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Not necessarily, barring specific State Laws, the Federal prohibitions can only apply to firearms in interstate commerce. A design pulled off the internet might qualify, but they'd be hard-pressed to prove it. I believe Montana was considering a law that would allow released felons access to firearms that were manufactured and sold only within the state thus circumventing the Federal law.
This isn't true as far as individuals go. It might keep the state from getting sued but if you are felon and a federal official gets involved you are still going to get arrested.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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Possibly the most significant thing to come out of this...............

From the press release:

DOJ, SAF REACH SETTLEMENT IN DEFENSE DISTRIBUTED LAWSUIT

For Immediate Release Contact: Alan Gottlieb (425) 454-7012




Significantly, the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber – including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms – are not inherently military.

“Not only is this a First Amendment victory for free speech, it also is a devastating blow to the gun prohibition lobby,” noted SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “For years, anti-gunners have contended that modern semi-automatic sport-utility rifles are so-called ‘weapons of war,’ and with this settlement, the government has acknowledged they are nothing of the sort.
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