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You keep talking about what Florida law allows. So you can entrap someone so that you can set them up to kill them....and get away with it. That is what it seems like the law allows for. Based upon this law, you can really set someone up for the kill if you play it right.
Entrapment? How in the world is concern for the welfare of the handicapped entrapment??
To your larger point, you can set someone up for the kill under the traditional self defense laws (where you have a duty to retreat, etc.) if you play it right, too. And if there is evidence of crookedness, then it must be dealt with. But that's not what we are dealing with here.
This isn't about a handicap spot. This is about someone throwing another person down to the ground violently.
Don't get physical with someone, if you do, you might get shot.
Was it really worth it? You are the ass hole here, parking in a handicap space and someone calls your attention to it. You then go an violently push the guy down and got shot.
What is stupid? Hell yes. Did the guy really deserve to die? No. However when you go around violently pushing people you run the risk of the situation escalating to getting shot. The cause of this is the guy getting violent over words. He is now dead.
Moral of the story is don't get violent with others because someone might bring a gun to the fight. Yes it is a senseless loss of life, all over a ****ing parking spot. I hope it was worth it bro.
Don't get physical with someone, if you do, you might get shot.
Was it really worth it? You are the ass hole here, parking in a handicap space and someone calls your attention to it. You then go an violently push the guy down and got shot.
What is stupid? Hell yes. Did the guy really deserve to die? No. However when you go around violently pushing people you run the risk of the situation escalating to getting shot. The cause of this is the guy getting violent over words. He is now dead.
Moral of the story is don't get violent with others because someone might bring a gun to the fight.
Agree with you 100%. If some think that I like the fact that a life was lost over stupidity (and, make no mistake about it, it was stupid to get physical with someone who was not getting physical with you/your loved ones). But that doesn't change my belief that what this concerned citizen did is completely justified and legal.
Entrapment? How in the world is concern for the welfare of the handicapped entrapment??
To your larger point, you can set someone up for the kill under the traditional self defense laws (where you have a duty to retreat, etc.) if you play it right, too. And if there is evidence of crookedness, then it must be dealt with. But that's not what we are dealing with here.
You don't know that. True, its not entrapment but he has been to that store plenty of time to be able to predict that eventually someone is going to park in the handicapped spot, giving him the pretext to confront them, wait for a reaction that is less than deadly but can be construed to cause fear for his life, then pull out his weapon and kill them. If you really understand the law.....its not hard to find situations that you can use as pretext to kill someone and get away with it. More people are agreeing now that this guy was LOOKING for trouble and armed while doing so. Without the SYG law to cover him, I am not convinced that he would have acted the same way.
We don't know his story. His wife or family member could be handicapped and he has a real thing for people who do this. I understand that.
I don't understand that and I currently have a number of family members that need handicapped spaces. The very idea that a guy would hang around the same place constantly and threaten to kill people over it...is crazy!
It seems the guy himself KNOWS HE IS NUT, but you don't. That's fantastic.
(The shooter told the store owner "I keep doing this and getting into trouble - but I can't stop myself although I know I should"...)....
So HE knows better, but is obviously mentally ill (calling the answering machine of a guy he threatened to kill a couple weeks back....is not the action of a sane individual)....but you don't??
Now, if you opined that fines should be larger for jaywalking, parking with your front facing out and taking a handicapped space....well, that would be sane. So would petitioning your state to change the laws or require more spaces.
But - no - his method is not sane nor can I understand it. His are the actions of a mentally ill individual.
This isn't about a handicap spot. This is about someone throwing another person down to the ground violently.
Don't get physical with someone, if you do, you might get shot.
Agreed. Perhaps the saddest part is the criminal did it all in front of his kids.
What a role model, showing their kids that they are above the law when parking and how to assault people who call you out for breaking the law
Anyone who thinks they’re above the law absolutely deserves a citizen up their butt calling them out, every single time
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