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Amazing that these scumbags will promote pedophilia.
Is that what mature women shaving their bush off, was all about?
My wife better not do that. I like to look at a woman, not some kid.
If the only way you can tell the difference between a girl and a woman is from the tuft of hair between her legs, you're the one with the problem. It's all about the curves!
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Amazing that these scumbags will promote pedophilia.
Is that what mature women shaving their bush off, was all about?
My wife better not do that. I like to look at a woman, not some kid.
You have to wonder if there was really anything to Pizzagate. I bet the premise is right, the location was wrong.
Funny thing about this #WalkAway movement. It's only taking place on rigthwing websites and blogs. All those conservatives are "walking away" from the Democratic party.
The Democrats won't miss them.
The #walkaway deal is Russian/Republican bots. All of the portraits used were purchased from Shutterstock.
Typical Putin/Trump disinformation campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Jones was behind it.
In the meantime, Roy Moore is still the leading pedo on the political scene, and the Dems don't want him.
Go on Lloyd Kaufman’s page — pal of Tony Podesta & James Gunn — and archive everything. Look also at accounts he’s tagged such as groovywitch666! Satanic & pedophile symbols everywhere & whose babies are these that look terrified? What a SICK bastard! #Pizzagate
Is that Lloyd Kaufman of Troma fame? He's made some killer movies. Also some garbage. Everything in every film is totally gratuitous, and everything he does is a sendup for shock value.
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That's why I'm not a fan of the whole "mental illeness" angle. It downplays the act. The act, say child molestation, is a crime. Claiming pedophilia is a mental illness/disorder, removes the criminality of it, makes an excuse for it, and turns a credible crime into a tolerable act on such and such conditions.
Regardless mental illness/disorder the act is still a crime.
It opens up to the criminal being the victim, and the crime, just a circumstance of one's "illness" or "disorder", almost the same as justifying the act when certain conditions exist. Oh, well, if they're mentally ill, that's not so bad afterall... they're not all there in the head... the rules don't apply since their illness/disorder clouds their judgement.
It's a crime ONLY if the pedophile acts on it. If the pedophile doesn't act on it, no crime is committed. Just because a person has a desire for sex toward any sort of person doesn't mean they're going to act on it. Look no further for proof of this than celibates (of whatever orientation) who choose to overrule their sexual urges.The law doesn't criminalize mental illnesses/disorders - only actual acts or expressions. And again, the mentally ill person is a criminal only if they act on that urge. You simply fail to separate the urge to act from the act itself.
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It's like when people say murderous scumbags have mental health issues for going on a spree.
Illness or no illness. They still committed a criminal act.
It's almost like a get out of jail free card. Only, instead of jail, it's the padded room. Instead of the death penalty its, the remainder of your years on the funny farm.
Three points: (1)HUGE difference between an urge/temptation and an actual act sourced in those urges/temptations. (2) Mentally ill people shouldn't be held to the same standard of responsibility as a sane person. (3) From a "physical isolation from society" perspective, there's no difference between an actual prison and a mental hospital. So both accomplish the goal of reducing public danger from certain individuals.
The mentally ill are not legally responsible for their actions, regardless of how badly they hurt another person. This is especially true if the person had insufficient freedom of will to think about their acts and/or restrain themselves. That is long established in criminal law, going all the way back to the M'Naughten Case in 1843.
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Or, say, a drunk driver. A drunk driver in NY could kill an entire family in a head on collision. They can get a lawyer. Lawyer will argue due to being intoxicated, this wasn't intentional. Their judgement was clouded. Whatever. Charges get reduced. Drunk spends a few years in jail, gets out early. I don't agree with that either. They should be charged for murder for each life they extinguished in the crash.
(Assuming no mental illness on the drunk driver's part). The difference is that before the person got drunk, he or she had no other situation that impaired his or her driving abilities. Also, person knows beforehand that drinking alcohol does create such an impairment. Yet, the person chooses to do drink a lot of alcohol anyway. So of course they are responsible for the deaths of others.
With pedophilic urges, totally aside from the act, there is a condition present. Certain people who do have those urges are aware of them. Those certain people knows that any act resulting from those urges is wrong, and chooses to refrain from doing them, plus maybe (even better) avoids situations giving them the opportunity to act upon their urges. In this case, there's no actual criminal act. Therefore, so long as the pedophile refrains from such acts, then it's perfectly reasonable to treat it as a mental illness alone.
That's why I'm not a fan of the whole "mental illeness" angle. It downplays the act. The act, say child molestation, is a crime. Claiming pedophilia is a mental illness/disorder, removes the criminality of it, makes an excuse for it, and turns a credible crime into a tolerable act on such and such conditions.
Regardless mental illness/disorder the act is still a crime.
It opens up to the criminal being the victim, and the crime, just a circumstance of one's "illness" or "disorder", almost the same as justifying the act when certain conditions exist. Oh, well, if they're mentally ill, that's not so bad afterall... they're not all there in the head... the rules don't apply since their illness/disorder clouds their judgement.
It's like when people say murderous scumbags have mental health issues for going on a spree.
Illness or no illness. They still committed a criminal act.
It's almost like a get out of jail free card. Only, instead of jail, it's the padded room. Instead of the death penalty its, the remainder of your years on the funny farm.
Or, say, a drunk driver. A drunk driver in NY could kill an entire family in a head on collision. They can get a lawyer. Lawyer will argue due to being intoxicated, this wasn't intentional. Their judgement was clouded. Whatever. Charges get reduced. Drunk spends a few years in jail, gets out early. I don't agree with that either. They should be charged for murder for each life they extinguished in the crash.
The mental illness side and the act are different. One is a mental illness. Obviously normal people are not wired for it. The act is a crime.
People want it classified as a mental illness as it will remove some stigma. The thinking is it'll allow those who suffer from it to seek out treatment.
You can't round them all up and shoot them. Offering help to those who recognize they have it and at the same time don't want to act on it is a win win for everyone. Most of them know it's wrong. For a lot of them it's a result of past abuse they were the victims of.
Pretty simple logic being used.
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