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Old 07-23-2018, 12:09 AM
 
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Genuine curiosity here, but does having a ‘back channel’ somehow suggest that it cannot exist through an intermediary? I never thought Trump, or any President for that matter, cannot send information via another person? Simply, I am asking if Putin and Trump are potentially using a back channel to communicate for any reason for he doesn’t trust either technology (as documented, he’s said in the past that he doesn’t trust email and would rather send information by paper to avoid information landing the wrong hands or being hacked) nor the operators of his phones.
Regular communication channels are monitored by Intel.

On both sides.
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:14 AM
 
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No fan of Trump, but I would say it’s OK to discuss government business in private without other government officials. The problem at hand is that he isn’t event attempting to remedy our concerns anymore. If I were Trump supporter, I would still think the optics of meeting alone while under investigation for coordinating with a foreign power isn’t the best move.

He could so easily kill our concerns:

•Release tax forms (he said no one but journalists care to see them)
•Have a consistent message on Russia (today, he again suggested Russia inference is a hoax)
•Address the nation from the Oval Office on Russia
•He should’ve implemented the sanctions on time and not grudgingly and behind closed doors
Though I don’t agree with Lindsey Graham on anything, he did say something spot on if Trump isn’t guilty:

I think the president gets this confused, if you suggest that Russians meddled in 2016, he goes to the idea that, well, I didn’t collude with them.

He could vindicate himself, but doesn’t.
In politics for so long and these folks can't spot a liar?

Trump outs himself
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:18 AM
 
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In politics for so long and these folks can't spot a liar?

Trump outs himself
Yet, for some strange reason, his supporters cannot see an issue here in respect to Russia. Again, if he is innocent, why is he acting this way?
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:34 AM
 
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A few Americans, including Erik Prince and Jared Kushner, have attempted to create a back channel with Russia, what is the possibility that it exists?
All presidents in the telecommunication age have that ability, and it is nothing new. I think it was a great idea, especially during the cold war, where one misunderstanding could have left our planet lifeless.
The point being that most world leaders can communicate with each other, whether it be directly or via their staffs.

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Old 07-23-2018, 12:35 AM
 
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Absolutely, I more than understand that but I am asking if it’s possible that Trump and Putin/Russia are, somehow, communicating outside of established diplomatic and secure channels?
They met alone with no one but a translator in Helsinki. Now they won't allow the translator answer questions about what was said from Congress. So, yeah, it's possible.
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:42 AM
 
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Of course they use “back channels” to communicate. Every leader in every major country does. To think otherwise is foolish. That doesn’t necessarily mean there is controversy going on. Just read the book about the Cuban Missle Crisis by Kennedy’s brother. It’s an interesting book and they are very open about the “back channels” used to talk with the Kremlin at that time.
Well we are pretty certain Kennedy wasn't getting the latest instructions from Nickita on how to conduct America d business.
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