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So, lets say you are right...he gets more respect form who?
Are you saying that because trump gave kim this photo op, china provides the political cover to ease the sanctions, only because of what trump did? Never before...really?
Meeting with Trump reduced, if not eliminated, Kim's status as an international pariah and China announced shortly after their meeting that they would ease sanctions, which they did. The meeting was a huge bargaining chip that the Trump gave to Kim for nothing.
No, my friend, you are the one drinking the koolaid. I provided a logical argument, you provided an emotional, factless statement.
No, your argument was not based in fact as I pointed out. Kim did not agree to anything aside from an agreement to work towards a goal with no clear definition.
Any suppositions made past that point are based on belief. Or emotion.
No, my friend, you are the one drinking the koolaid. I provided a logical argument, you provided an emotional, factless statement.
You didn't provide a "logical argument". You falsely claimed that North Korea agreed, in writing, to denuclearize. They did no such thing. You either believed a lie (e.g., drinking the Kool Aid) because you haven't been keeping up to date or are intentionally spreading misinformation.
What is it with you people blaming Trump for North Korea not sticking to their agreement to denuclearize? It makes no sense (well actually it makes perfect sense...) why you continue to undermine our own country's leadership while supporting our enemies. Political biases aside, what good can possibly come of that?
Wait, you mean Kim went back on a promise? How could have anyone have known that the Kims don't keep their promises?
Actually, they didn't even need to renege on their promise because they only committed to generally working towards a vague goal of denuclearization and nothing more. That's how little Trump achieved.
Read my post [ #116 ] above. The North Koreans said what Trump wanted to hear, they got what they wanted, Trump claimed victory and you bought into it.
North Korea has backed out. They want us to lift our nuclear protection off of South Korea and Japan.
There's just one small flaw in your logic: The situation is still unfolding. You're acting as though the summit was the final nail in the coffin -- the last attempt that will be made to solve the North Korean problem -- which is just silly thinking.
There's just one small flaw in your logic: The situation is still unfolding. You're acting as though the summit was the final nail in the coffin -- the last attempt that will be made to solve the North Korean problem -- which is just silly thinking.
The situation is not unfolding. The Kim regime has continued to do what they have always done and Trump gave them something of significant value in exchange for nothing. Trump got so little that North Korea didn't even have to breach their agreement because Trump only extracted a vague and unenforceable commitment to work towards vague future goals. Astounding stuff.
Of course the US will continue to work to resolve the North Korea situation. The point was that the North Korea summit was not only a failure, it hurt long-term US strategic interests by surrendering a significant bargaining chip in exchange for nothing. The idea that someone in the future may have success in North Korea will not change that fact.
Actually, they didn't even need to renege on their promise because they only committed to generally working towards a vague goal of denuclearization and nothing more. That's how little Trump achieved.
So he reneged on a promise to discuss the possibility of working towards something maybe. Even better.
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