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Old 09-29-2018, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Can't watch the video but I've always known a higher percentage of the lighter Mexicans look down on the darker ones.
Yes, just walk into any bank in Mexico and look around, and see if you spot any dark skinned Mexicans, or just stay home and watch Mexican television!

Most Mexicans are made up of different proportions: 90/10, 80/20, 70/30, 60/40,50/50, but the Native American Indian blood is there is some proportion.

My Mexican roommate I'd estimate to be 50/50, except when he's had too much to drink, or any Mexican for that matter, and out pops the Native American Indian. And what are they famous for? The more you drink the closer you come to God!

If you really want to get a fist in your face, just accuse a Mexican of having some Indian blood in them, or call them an Indian.

I've traveled all over Mexico and the most Black Mexicans I saw were in Vera Cruz, along the Caribbean coast.
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Old 09-29-2018, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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My mother in law (she's Salvadoran) loves to talk about how all three of her daughters married white men. It's rather uncomfortable.
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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Racism is an ugly drug.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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Mexican Racism against Black Americans in the American South in the first half of the 20th Century:

When Mexicans Were White
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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It's disgraceful. It's just odd that Mexico is so overtly racist, yet never get's called out for it.
They need to be called out for their history of racism in the United States.

Did you know that Mexican Americans were bombing the homes of black people in Dallas Texas for moving into white neighborhoods? ...hanging up "white only" signs and chasing black people out of white neighborhoods with knives?

When Mexicans Were White: The Dallas Bombings of 1950
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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Mexican is not a race, it is a nationality and culture.

There are Mexicans that come in the White, Black, Asian and every other variety.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:20 PM
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Mexican is not a race, it is a nationality and culture.

There are Mexicans that come in the White, Black, Asian and every other variety.
This is too complex a concept for many black and white US citizens most see primarily through the race prism. You're confusing them.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Colorism and Racism are two different things. A white dude being attacked by a black dude is Racism. A Yoruba who is lighter skinned attacking a Yoruba who is darker skinned is colorism, although that rarely happens in Nigeria it is more common in countries were the population ranges by a large margin. Why this is different from racism in America is that everyone involved is almost exclusively a proportion native, a proportion black and a proportion white. For example a 70% White 30% Native hating on a 40% White 30% Native 30% Black isn't racism, because the person in question isn't a "black" person per se but a mixed person with higher black admixture... So their not really hating them because of their race, but directly because of their skin tone, because the way these genes express, the main noticeable features between the first person and the second person isn't facial structure or anything like that, but is skin tone. This can also happen in places like Brazil were a White person can be more native than a mixed race Brazilian, and both be roughly the same amount as white but because of their genes, and their heritage/upbringing colorism will still be present even if genetically one being scorned is more white than the one doing the scorning, so it isn't about physical race as much as it is about straight up skin color. Colorism isn't a word that was invented by SJWs but something that has been present in societies for generations and centuries in monoethnic societies, seen in countries were the actual difference in skin tone was completely due to living standards as in not being pale from being under an umbrella and living life in royalty vs. one being dark from working under the hot sun..
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Old 09-29-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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It's disgraceful. It's just odd that Mexico is so overtly racist, yet never get's called out for it.

Have posted about this before; racism is all over to some degree "Latin America", from Mexico right on down to Brazil, Argentina and even the islands such as Cuba.


Basically any place the Europeans (Spanish and Portuguese mainly, but also French and British) went they brought their "White is Right" mentality.


Men being men after all there was plenty of relations with native Indian women and or the Africans brought as slaves. But there was a hierarchy among the various mixed breed offspring, which reflects same things you saw in the USA (especially in the south). Lighter skinned with "good hair" and European features was highly prized. OTOH those with "black" and or Indian features......


You can watch telenovelas (Spanish or Portuguese soap operas) all day/night and rarely see Indian and or "African/black" people. When you do they are maids, domestics, servants, field workers, buffoons, etc...


The few "darker" women that do break out of those roles look remarkably "white". Long hair (weaves and or relaxed) and facial features that speak more to Europe than Africa.


No, instead most actors in telenovelas are remarkably beautiful "European" looking and so forth. It's like watching American television from the 1950's and much of the 1960's.


Go down to South Florida where the "elite" Cubans rule. They don't like "blacks" and that includes Haitians, or at least consided themselves better.


Dominican Republic? They actively keep those from other side of that island (Haiti) from their side unless it involves things like domestic service, manual labor, etc...


For these and many other reasons people who actually know about the "Latino-Hispanic" culture in USA laugh when (mostly white) Americans try to lump them into one homogenous group. They are nothing of the kind with simmering rivalries and prejudges galore.


The Puerto Ricans here in NYC basically cannot stand the Dominicans for instance. OTOH want to make a person of European Spanish descent (as in from Spain) *very* angry to the point of maybe physical violence? Call them Puerto Rican! *LOL*
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Old 10-04-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Have posted about this before; racism is all over to some degree "Latin America", from Mexico right on down to Brazil, Argentina and even the islands such as Cuba.


Basically any place the Europeans (Spanish and Portuguese mainly, but also French and British) went they brought their "White is Right" mentality.


Men being men after all there was plenty of relations with native Indian women and or the Africans brought as slaves. But there was a hierarchy among the various mixed breed offspring, which reflects same things you saw in the USA (especially in the south). Lighter skinned with "good hair" and European features was highly prized. OTOH those with "black" and or Indian features......


You can watch telenovelas (Spanish or Portuguese soap operas) all day/night and rarely see Indian and or "African/black" people. When you do they are maids, domestics, servants, field workers, buffoons, etc...


The few "darker" women that do break out of those roles look remarkably "white". Long hair (weaves and or relaxed) and facial features that speak more to Europe than Africa.


No, instead most actors in telenovelas are remarkably beautiful "European" looking and so forth. It's like watching American television from the 1950's and much of the 1960's.


Go down to South Florida where the "elite" Cubans rule. They don't like "blacks" and that includes Haitians, or at least consided themselves better.


Dominican Republic? They actively keep those from other side of that island (Haiti) from their side unless it involves things like domestic service, manual labor, etc...


For these and many other reasons people who actually know about the "Latino-Hispanic" culture in USA laugh when (mostly white) Americans try to lump them into one homogenous group. They are nothing of the kind with simmering rivalries and prejudges galore.


The Puerto Ricans here in NYC basically cannot stand the Dominicans for instance. OTOH want to make a person of European Spanish descent (as in from Spain) *very* angry to the point of maybe physical violence? Call them Puerto Rican! *LOL*
Not all Hispanics hate each other. We just don't like being mistaken for another ethnic group that we actually aren't. And the "Puerto Ricans and Dominicans hate each other" thing is a myth. I mean back in the 1980s, 90s, and up to the early 2000s they was a little rivalry between the 2 in places like NYC, Boston, and Puerto Rico. Of coarse, there's racists in every ethnic group, but Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are nearly identical in appearance and ancestry so racism towards the other is ignorant. Theres never been high tension between the 2, just an overhyped overexaggerated semi-friendly rivalry, and even that rivalry has died down and intermingling in a friendly/romantic level is very strong now.
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