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yes 90% of these 'children' you are talking about DID NOT COME with parents
this entire '''kidnapping''' garbage is about unaccompanied alien children (UACs), yet liberals lie and spin it
why do liberal constantly lie
Why do you keep repeating this lie?
As the OP stated, this thread is about the thousands of children separated from their parents upon entering the country.
The administration itself has reported that these children were separated from their parents.
If you want to talk about unaccompanied children, start another thread.
no it is not... that is a liberal lie..... 90% are unaccompanied... ie human trafficked....
Thousands of these unaccompanied children—particularly young teenage girls—are subjected to sexual abuse by smugglers and criminals.... yet liberals support this type of barbarism
why are liberals supporting the criminal human traffickers......?????
My, my, you do like to twist things. You don't actually believe that "liberals," who you say care about these "illegal" children in custody, do not care about other children that enter unaccompanied. That's a crass falsehood, and you know it. It's disgusting to even suggest it.
But that's neither here nor there, because this thread IS about those children who are separated from their parent(s) as part of the Trump administrations "zero-tolerance" policy. You're trying to divert the conversation. It is not a "liberal lie." It's absolutely true. There are children in custody that were separated from their parent(s). The administration isn't denying it--they've admitted that over 400 of these parents may have already been deported. Soooooo, how can the parents have been deported without reunification, if the children weren't separated?
Answer this: Why would someone bring children through dangerous conditions at all? Can you think of any reasons? I have children, and it would be a pretty serious situation that would have me taking those risks. So, try for a moment to imagine the desperation of someone who chooses to make this journey. It's not an arbitrary decision. It's not casual. It's not impulsive. It's a decision to join family, to find better economic conditions, to find medical care, to find a way out of a cycle of violence. There are an infinite number of reasons, and I'd be 0 of them are because they want to come break the law in the US.
Do you personally know anyone who has illegally crossed the border?
They bring children to have a better chance of staying in the country, to get benefits, to get free medical care and education for their children while they earn more money than they possibly could in their own country.
Not the same as fleeing dangerous conditions.
Here in the US, citizens also strive to find better economic conditions, get medical care, find a way out of a cycle of violence.
There are more opportunities in the US, that is all and they don't come here because they want to break the law, they don't care if they break the law. Much of that is because for decades there have been absolutely no repercussions for crossing the border illegally or living and working here illegally.
US authorities have struggled with how to handle the tens of thousands of kids who end up caught by the Border Patrol. Those coming from Mexico are taken straight back across. The rest are referred to the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement (rather than being put in immigration detention with adults) and placed in temporary shelters while their deportation proceedings get under way.
Journalists aren’t allowed into these shelters “for safety reasons,” an ORR spokeswoman told me—due to concerns about trafficking victims, the agency goes to great lengths to conceal the exact locations of its facilities.
same issue... yet the fascist liberals condemn trump, but praised obozo.....
liberalism is truly a mental disease
Whataboutism is truly a mental disorder.
You continue to want to talk about something other than what the OP has created a thread to talk about.
This thread is about the few thousand children that have been forcibly separated from their parents and the number that may never be reunited.
This is the topic of this thread:
"The Trump administration told a federal court on Tuesday that more than 450 migrant parents whose children were separated from them are no longer in the United States, raising questions about whether the parents fully understood that they were being deported without their children."
"Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar now estimates that under 3,000 kids who may have been separated from their parents are in government custody -- a figure far higher than his department released just nine days ago."
The parents were given a choice to take their kids with them or not. They choose not. They are intentionally leaving them often with relatives to stay and apply for asylum through the unaccompanied alien child process.
So the situation is you an adult will be deported to await your asylum decision, these people have already gotten their final deportation order because they came over the border illegally-zero tolerance, if you stay you will not be reunited with your kids during this time, if you go now you will be reunited with your children now and they will be deported along with you. You choose.
If I give you the keys to my car willingly, you are not stealing my car.
Are you kidding? Some may be leaving children as you say, which I can only imagine is a horrific decision to make.
Do you have any idea how the asylum process works? If you are deported, you are not awaiting a decision! You must argue for asylum at your hearing. If your claim meets the criteria of a "credible fear," your claim moves on through the process (a slow, laborious process). If it does not, then you are deported (or you request an immigration lawyer to review). So one who is deported has gone through that process. If the claim is economic hardship, that's not enough. So, people showing up at border crossings seeking asylum are doing it right. But the "zero-tolerance" has separated them from their children. When these adults are deported, they are NOT automatically given a choice to take their children or leave them behind.
He (figurative) can only see things through the lens of his own prejudices and lack of compassion. When you don't have compassion, it's impossible to imagine it or empathize with those who do so you must assign the same base reasoning for their actions as are responsible for your own.
Trump was elected specifically because he has no empathy. His following obviously thinks this is a good thing. His lack of empathy was very well-known and well-exhibited before the election. Lacking empathy is a positive in Trumpworld. (Unless a bunch of midwestern farmers are sad about losing money--then we must give them taxpayer funds--not blame Trump, or tell them they got what they deserved by electing an expert in bankruptcy and debt evasion--deal with it). It's bizarro America.
Those illegal aliens are more than happy to dump their kids on the US.
What a terrible thing to imagine. Do you think poor brown moms love their kids less than you, or what? Are there examples of this? Sure, but there are examples of it among all people. To think that all or most immigrants from Latin America are coming to dump their kids is horrific and certainly not true.
Are you kidding? Some may be leaving children as you say, which I can only imagine is a horrific decision to make.
Do you have any idea how the asylum process works? If you are deported, you are not awaiting a decision! You must argue for asylum at your hearing. If your claim meets the criteria of a "credible fear," your claim moves on through the process (a slow, laborious process). If it does not, then you are deported (or you request an immigration lawyer to review). So one who is deported has gone through that process. If the claim is economic hardship, that's not enough. So, people showing up at border crossings seeking asylum are doing it right. But the "zero-tolerance" has separated them from their children. When these adults are deported, they are NOT automatically given a choice to take their children or leave them behind.
Read the articles. The ones being deported did not do it the right way. They crossed the border illegally. The ones who did it the right way were not separated from their children.
Answer this: Why would someone bring children through dangerous conditions at all? Can you think of any reasons? I have children, and it would be a pretty serious situation that would have me taking those risks. So, try for a moment to imagine the desperation of someone who chooses to make this journey. It's not an arbitrary decision. It's not casual. It's not impulsive. It's a decision to join family, to find better economic conditions, to find medical care, to find a way out of a cycle of violence. There are an infinite number of reasons, and I'd be 0 of them are because they want to come break the law in the US.
This administration's policy is costing taxpayers so much, it's unbelievable that we're not howling about the fiscal implications. How did we end up in a situation where spending over $10K PER DEPORTEE is acceptable? Housing separated children costs an estimated $150-$800 per night (depending on the type of facility, etc). This is a massive amount of money. Housing a family together costs just over $300 per night. Keeping a family together is not only cost-effective, it's the morally right thing. If someone is going to be turned away, fine. Turn them away as an intact family.
There are instances where this is not the case, parents still cross illegally with children. How does the law apply to them? Go.
This article is not relevant to this thread. Those 'left behind' children were BORN in America, not ones who came with their parents and were then separated.
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