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Old 07-28-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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If you do not know her cause of death, how do you know it was due to "too many toxic drugs"?

Believing something is insufficient to make it true.
It's what I choose to believe. Do you ever have gut feelings, thoughts about somethings? Or is it all science facts in your life?

25+ yrs of infusions, injections, orals were given her to help save her. She choose to trust those MD's....they made so much money on her life. Now no more money.

 
Old 07-28-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It's what I choose to believe. Do you ever have gut feelings, thoughts about somethings? Or is it all science facts in your life?

25+ yrs of infusions, injections, orals were given her to help save her. She choose to trust those MD's....they made so much money on her life. Now no more money.
Therefore she lived 25+ years with those medications, which are scientifically shown to reduce the progression of MS and lessen disability from the disease.

All you have is "gut feelings".

Sorry, I will believe the science over your gut, which has absolutely no way to determine that your sister's medications killed her.
 
Old 07-28-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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Oh please, she died from MS and all it's complications. I did not ask to read her D.C. We lived 3000 miles away for the last 50 yrs. How many people do you ask for D.C. I believe she took too too many toxic drugs. All this from the MS MD's.
No seriously. I thought she really died from a drug overdose. You have said that a few times so I believed you.
 
Old 07-28-2018, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Therefore she lived 25+ years with those medications, which are scientifically shown to reduce the progression of MS and lessen disability from the disease.

All you have is "gut feelings".

Sorry, I will believe the science over your gut, which has absolutely no way to determine that your sister's medications killed her.
Well, of course, you are going to "buy" the science..how shocking. I've been on MS groups and also a friend who deals with MS and none of them talk about taking all the drugs my sister's docs gave her. She listened to them like a good patient. Thinking they would save her.

Well, it happened again, Off Topic.
 
Old 07-28-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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Note to all other C-D folks who get to this point in this thread: Please, PLEASE, listen to you doctor, ask questions, do a little research on your own at a trusted site such as NIH, but do not ever listen to some half baked, internet crank job, who thinks a magnesium supplement and some grape seed extract will cure everything. There are a lot of those folks out there (and I'm not singling out anyone in particular) and they all deal in half (or less) truths and are only giving false hope. It is disgusting for them to ever suggest that all the good folks who were involved in my late wife's chemo were, somehow, part of a large plot to keep the "real cure" a secret. It is simply evil to suggest such a thing.
 
Old 07-28-2018, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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To stay on topic, A World Without Cancer is a PBS program. Maybe some saw it, I did not.

https://www.cancertutor.com/world-without-cancer/


There is a box that reads Articles and worth clicking and reading.

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Old 07-28-2018, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Note to all other C-D folks who get to this point in this thread: Please, PLEASE, listen to you doctor, ask questions, do a little research on your own at a trusted site such as NIH, but do not ever listen to some half baked, internet crank job, who thinks a magnesium supplement and some grape seed extract will cure everything. There are a lot of those folks out there (and I'm not singling out anyone in particular) and they all deal in half (or less) truths and are only giving false hope. It is disgusting for them to ever suggest that all the good folks who were involved in my late wife's chemo were, somehow, part of a large plot to keep the "real cure" a secret. It is simply evil to suggest such a thing.
I don't know where you are coming from about your late wife's chemo etc etc etc.

This is not about any one specific person. I've lost loved ones to cancer and chemo.

And grape seed MAY prevent cancer(s) as I was told 23 yrs ago...so far so good. Not half baked from my point of view. Good to keep open minds on just about everything.

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Old 07-28-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And grape seed MAY prevent cancer(s) as I was told 23 yrs ago...so far so good. Not half baked from my point of view. Good to keep open minds on just about everything.
And maybe you were never destined to have cancer at all, grape seed extract or no.

About 62% of US women never get cancer.

When you show me a properly conducted study in humans that shows that fewer people who take GSE get cancer than those who do not, I'll start taking it myself.
 
Old 07-28-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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And maybe you were never destined to have cancer at all, grape seed extract or no.

About 62% of US women never get cancer.

When you show me a properly conducted study in humans that shows that fewer people who take GSE get cancer than those who do not, I'll start taking it myself.
Never know...isn't that true with about everything. Who is destined and who is not? That is the question. Do you have the answer to that one?
 
Old 07-28-2018, 10:03 PM
 
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I don't know where you are coming from about your late wife's chemo etc etc etc.

This is not about any one specific person. I've lost loved ones to cancer and chemo.

And grape seed MAY prevent cancer(s) as I was told 23 yrs ago...so far so good. Not half baked from my point of view. Good to keep open minds on just about everything.

As long as you are on here spouting nonsense folks are going to call you out. You know damn well where "I'm coming from". What you say is that anyone who dies from cancer did so because they didn't follow the pseudo-scientific nonsense you preach about, which is called blaming the victim. "Didn't go to Mexico for treatment? Your fault!" So yes a lot of folks will take that personal.

And your loved ones died from cancer, not from chemo. But you know that.

Finally, having an open mind does not mean believing a bunch of nonsense that has no factual, scientific support. I don't believe in Santa or the Tooth Fairy either.

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