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Actually, I recall voting machines flipping votes in a few states but they flipped Trump votes to Hillary. There is at least one video on youtube where a voter recorded himself pressing the Trump button and you can see it happen. What these voters did was go to the poll worker and request a paper ballot.
We should only vote by paper ballot with a bar code and be able to track it through the system to make sure it gets recorded.
We usually don't agree - but I do agree with you entirely on this.
Influencing an election is one thing, changing votes would be an act of war. I doubt Russia would cross that line.
That said these machines need to be replaced ASAP. Everyone should have paper trail and display the paper results to the voter before leaving the booth. Randomly audit them to make sure the paper vote matches the electronic vote.
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Saying that Russia, or anyone, changed votes in a voting machine by hacking it is silly since those machines aren't connected to the internet. Sure the votes in the machines can be changed but that would take physical (no internet cord) access to the machines to do it.
Saying that Russia, or anyone, changed votes in a voting machine by hacking it is silly since those machines aren't connected to the internet. Sure the votes in the machines can be changed but that would take physical (no internet cord) access to the machines to do it.
What you are referring to is an air gap, while that helps it doesn't make them invulnerable. At some point in time either a tech or whoever is going to connect something to that device, if the device they are connecting is from outside the air gap then it is effectively closed.
For example you create worm that ends up infecting 100's or even billions of devices world wide but this worm has a precise mission and does nothing to them. When a tech takes his infected laptop into the air gapped facility bad things happen to things like centrifuges.
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What you are referring to is an air gap, while that helps it doesn't make them invulnerable. At some point in time either a tech or whoever is going to connect something to that device, if the device they are connecting is from outside the air gap then it is effectively closed.
For example you create worm that ends up infecting 100's or even billions of devices world wide but this worm has a precise mission and does nothing to them. When a tech takes his infected laptop into the air gapped facility bad things happen to things like centrifuges.
I understand all of that, but I would think that they investigate those machine before they are wheeled into the polling places. And, I see no reason why someone at those polling places would plug a machine into the internet while the machine is available to be used, especially since they also know what you say can happen if it's plugged into the internet.
Saying that Russia, or anyone, changed votes in a voting machine by hacking it is silly since those machines aren't connected to the internet. Sure the votes in the machines can be changed but that would take physical (no internet cord) access to the machines to do it.
Actually, I recall voting machines flipping votes in a few states but they flipped Trump votes to Hillary. There is at least one video on youtube where a voter recorded himself pressing the Trump button and you can see it happen. What these voters did was go to the poll worker and request a paper ballot.
We should only vote by paper ballot with a bar code and be able to track it through the system to make sure it gets recorded.
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We usually don't agree - but I do agree with you entirely on this.
This also goes into voter identification, I can not understand some people's objection to being presented for identification in order to vote. One of you most important civic responsibilities, and some people are Ok with not having to present picture identification to prove who you say you are.
In todays day and age it is almost impossible to be able to function with out identification, so I don't understand the reluctance to voter identification. I know here in Virginia I have had to show my drivers license for years now before I could be allowed to vote.
That's just one big lie. The stupid article repeatedly pretends that accessing voter databases is the same thing as accessing voting machines. Complete dishonesty.
The thing that bothers me about the machines is where they are made and who does the software.
Machines were made in China and the software developed in Russia.
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