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View Poll Results: Will you still support Trump if you discover he paid for an abortion?
Yes- I don't care what he did prior to being in office. 19 50.00%
Yes- What he is doing now outweighs the bad of the abortion. 5 13.16%
No- I find it morally objectionable and could no longer vote for him in good conscience. 14 36.84%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-27-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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The right (that would include me) have seen so many false attacks, that any woman coming forward now that makes such a claim is going to be rejected out of hand. period.




Then there is the simple nastiness coming from the left. We honestly made a decision to go with a guy we know has his faults because he was willing to get down in the mud and beat the left at their dirty game. Trump is a fighter and that's what we wanted. All such have their scars. we don't care about his scars so long as he bloodies the left.


I know that's not what you want to hear. I know you are digging and digging to find that one button you can push so we will decide to eject Trump. its not going to happen. so long as he is beating the left to a bloody pulp, (politically speaking of course) we are going to stand up for him and igore anything you guys come up with.


GET THIS
YOU GUYS are so bad, we decided to support Donald Trump. As bad as he is he is compared to the left. That comparison is a simple choice. The left is BY FAR the worst. it isn't even close. No matter what you say about Trump, we see the reality of WHAT YOU ARE. We rejected YOU.

 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Trump paying for an abortion must be a foreign concept for the left, how can anyone have one that government didn't pay for? It's difficult for liberals to grasp but most conservatives aren't against abortion, they're against using TAX dollars to pay for it.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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What's really horrifying about this discussion is that we have elected a president whose personal history has made it plausible.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: USA
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The Evangelicals would just assume that the aborted child would have grown up to be a Democrat. So no problem.
Yeah. Or poor, or of the "wrong" faith or sexuality, or some other junk. Or, they'd spin it about how giving up a child was the "ultimate sacrifice" Trump made to save Americuh.

No amount of facts will dissuade the members of Cult 45. If Trump walked into their hometown and personally burned it to the ground, they'd blame "liberals." If he offered to shoot each of them in the foot, personally, with the promise that someday he might shoot somebody they hate in both feet, they'd jump at the honor. You can't reason with crazy.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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What's really horrifying about this discussion is that we have elected a president whose personal history has made it plausible.
Bill Clinton
Lyndon Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Franklin Roosevelt.


The left has never been horrified by their own being morally repugnant. why do you think the rest of us accept your current outrage?




Every person of the left who offers a moral argument against Donald Trump is a hypocrite whose words are worth less than the dirt on the sole of our shoes.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:39 PM
 
Location: North America
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Given Avenatti hinting that one of the women Trump paid off was pregnant with his child I think this is something that has to be considered.
If it is proven that Trump paid the woman to have an abortion would it change your support of him?
I don't support him now.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Trump paying for an abortion must be a foreign concept for the left, how can anyone have one that government didn't pay for? It's difficult for liberals to grasp but most conservatives aren't against abortion, they're against using TAX dollars to pay for it.
How many maybe 90%? And for the religious right that number is 100%.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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GET THIS
YOU GUYS are so bad, we decided to support Donald Trump. As bad as he is he is compared to the left. That comparison is a simple choice. The left is BY FAR the worst. it isn't even close. No matter what you say about Trump, we see the reality of WHAT YOU ARE. We rejected YOU.
Your mistake.

Righties make me laugh with their false heroics in picking Trump. You picked a sleazy, con artist, draft-dodging, tax cheating, woman abusing, man-child thug who is so crooked he couldn't walk a straight line. You managed to find a candidate worse than Hillary Clinton - no easy feat! - and backed him with a mindless rancor normally reserved for insane "Dear Leaders" in 3rd world failed states. And when finally presented with daily evidence that your false prophet is nothing but a total scumbag, you just deny reality and double-down.

We progressives are well aware of what you on the far-right rejected. Truth, integrity, the First Amendment, civil rights for people unlike you, and basically all standards of civilization. And the worst part of it is that NONE of you who praise Trump today would have trusted him before he ran for office with their money, house, or wife. Hypocrites!

You didn't "pick Trump." He simply found people gullible enough to deny what they already knew in their sad, partisan need to support him. He picked you, and he OWNS you now.

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Old 07-27-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
Bill Clinton
Lyndon Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Franklin Roosevelt.


The left has never been horrified by their own being morally repugnant. why do you think the rest of us accept your current outrage?




Every person of the left who offers a moral argument against Donald Trump is a hypocrite whose words are worth less than the dirt on the sole of our shoes.
I thought Clinton was slimy, too, if it's any consolation. Johnson, Kennedy, and Roosevelt were before my time.
 
Old 07-27-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
Bill Clinton
Lyndon Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Franklin Roosevelt.

The left has never been horrified by their own being morally repugnant. why do you think the rest of us accept your current outrage?

Every person of the left who offers a moral argument against Donald Trump is a hypocrite whose words are worth less than the dirt on the sole of our shoes.
Every person on the right who thinks pointing out the failings of mostly dead or otherwise out-of-power leaders "on the left" somehow justifies the horrible actions of Trump today is a hypocrite who is blind to the facts and whose words are worth less than the lies that drip from Trump's mouth.

For one thing, many of us progressives who reject Trump weren't even born yet when Johnson or Kennedy was in power, but - yes - they also were morally repugnant. As for FDR, I will no doubt get a laugh out of why the right hates him. They probably ticked off that he won WW2, or mad that he created social safety nets. As for Clinton, well, duh! Of course he's scum! And he's still LESS SCUMMY than Trump! Suck on that, righties with your fake moral outrage! Lunatic hypocrites!
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