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Old 07-29-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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The U.S. has never been, and never will be, a democracy.
I'd assert with dedicated conviction that We are a Democracy, which facilitates its political system by a Republic Form, which means, we the public vote to elect representatives, and as a Democracy, that means, One Person, One Vote, which is the basis in voice of the people within a Democracy. Democracy is not something for the frail mind nor the selfish mentality.

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• ((DEMOCRACY = a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.))
• ((REPUBLIC = a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch. ))

 
Old 07-29-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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America is Awakened- There WILL NOT be a continuation of the devastation Trump and Republican have engaged

There will NOT be six years more of Trump!!!

Not in America!!!! Maybe Putin may give him a position, but seeing how Putin owns him, it certainly won't be in Russian Government, it might be some servant like role that avoids Trump from being anywhere close to anything that deals with Russian Governments Revenue. They know Trump to be a swindler. One thing is for certain, if Trump were in Russian while working for Putin, they likely would have long ago used the FSB who is skilled at neutralizing a menace and a problem.

Republicans in America is a bad piece of work for America. (Every Republican Administration has damaged America over the past 50 yrs)

Looking Back... and seeing the truths history has recorded:
GHW Bush lied and resulted to destabilize the Middle East and Destroy the Landscape and Society in Iraq, and created the largest weapon selling network in World History. But what he did not do was "attack every Agency, Department, Division and launch an incessant assault upon our legal and judicial systems, and he certainly did not go about publicly attacking the public persons, and threatening congressional people. He did not even amass the Right Wing White Evangelicals to expose themselves for their sanctioning of illicit activity and immorality as we've seen to come into being under Trump. Yes, Bush administration damaged our economic and financial system and left masses homeless and jobless. Trump is taking up on that to recycle it because Republican feel they did not do enough damage and they did not harm the working people enough, so Trump has set out to do it where there is no working poor and dire poor avenues to save themselves from the coming crash and onslaught of economic calamity.

American people who respect America did not buy into the vile of Trump's assault mentality against President Obama, and they certainly did not buy into his Birther Crap. We the Democracy and Dignity Loving People saw him as nothing more than what he is, a swindler, a belligerently arrogant man, who is obsessed with money, to the degree that nothing is sacred and nothing is respected when Trump sets his focus on trying to get more money.

Bush may have done much in damages in the Middle East, but he did not sell out America as Trump has in his lusting for Putin's acknowledgment, and Putin's continuance of feeding its dark money through the Trump network.

The die hard Trumper's... are no different than the make up of those "Anti-Government Types", "The Anti-Tax Types, and those who are Anti-Regulations - They carry forth the same ideology and agenda as the Confederate have done for a Century plus Decades. They embrace within their group make up, the Neo Nazi's, The White Nationalist, The White Separatist, the Right Wing White Evangelicals, The Anti-Government, The Anti-Regulation, The Anti-Environment, and The Anti-Multicultural America, and the manjy factions of White Hate Groups by the many various names they use.

They make up the exact same demeanor as what LBJ spoke about in the 1960's.


They now run around talking about "they were left behind"... when truth and fact is: Their bias, bigotry and racism and incessant creating their motivations to promote prejudices of many kind upon and against many groups, which has kept them locked in a spin of belligerence and attack something, attack anything mentality; until they did not prepare themselves to move forward with the nations and the times. They continued to expect the Jim Crow designed "white privilege", as a desired aim, to allow them to use belligerence and bully stomping to continue to give them first access and first options to everything. When they found out they have to get in the equally line, and they have to be prepared to compete with real capability, they cried louder, and then began to cry discrimination, when they could no longer have unquestioned first access and first options to everything. They became enraged when they come to find out they needed what they did not equip themselves for, which is "competency" in job related skills.

They spent decades supporting the destruction of Unions, they spend every focused effort they could muster to support the Ronald Reagan attack on education and they jumped for joy when he de-funded higher education and made it even difficult for the average working person to go to Community Colleges and State Universities. All these people saw was their aim and intent to try and cut off and block the pathway of women and minorities from getting the educational access that once was wide open to "white only" during the 1940's, 1950's, 1960's and early 1970's.

They stood lock step in those damaging acts, with a single focus, that they'd make life difficult for women and minorities to progress. Never aware, that it would double back and encompass them as well with the hardships invoked to impede women and minorities, by the damages done to devastate themselves as well. For decades, they thought their white skin would save them from being equal victims in the damages they set in motion and supported.

The jobs busted unions and laid off people by the 10's of thousands, and education became more and more unaffordable, and the enclaves of working poor and poor white communities began to find themselves with the exact same decline they had desired to impose on women in general, single mother families, and minorities.

What they did not consider, was the fact that the liberal minded whites male and female, women in general and single mothers, and minorities, already had lived with the bias based hardships and challenges imposed by right wing society, and these groups knew they needed to continue to improve themselves and stay abreast of the change in society and work to continually prepare themselves.
It's why today; the liberal minded whites male and female, the women and single mothers and minorities are able to deal with the challenges and keep working on moving forward and developing skills and gaining competency in our society. It is today, the same liberal minded whites male and female, the women and single mothers and minorities continue to stand and support the Government, the Government System and General Society as being a Multi-Cultural Society that will continue to build the future that is to be America's Future.

None of the liberal minded whites male and female, the women and single mothers and minorities are sitting around screaming a crying with some claim they have been left behind. The liberal minded whites male and female, the women and single mothers and minorities know the impacts of race bias, gender bias, and the bigotry biases that have raged for decades against them as being progressive minded people. So, they continue to prepare themselves for the every unfolding future that is always in process. They ARE NOT sitting around with some backwards agenda thinking of trying to claim to be Conservative with a lusting to recreate the past. The liberal minded whites male and female, the women and single mothers and minorities know the vile that existed in the past, and they are not going to support repeating it, and they are not going to allow society to regress into that vile and madness.

They don't run around with some silly phrase, like "I pulled myself up by my bootstraps', because the liberal minded whites male and female, the women and single mothers and minorities know, that to arise and to advance is only done through a cooperative system of living, where someone is always there to be of assistance and supporting interaction with other people, because they are smart enough to know, nothing is done or achieved, without the help, support, assistance and cooperation as well as the mutual help benefit of people working together.

This is something the delusional "grandstanding of the Republican/Confederate Mind cannot digest, they only absorb themselves into thinking "the wealthy will give them something", so they can blind themselves with a thought they did everything themselves.

You can see these types everywhere, they are the ones calling police on people, as if they can dictate how and what other people can and cannot do. We see them in the communities, as the neighbor who has a selfish obsession that lead them to be in contention with other neighbors, we seek them as the masses who continue to wipe out the entire family, we see them as the make up of those who groom and breed the type kids who go to schools and shoot up other kids, we seek them in the rural sectors, killing babies, molesting kids, and now we see them fill the ranks of the opioid epidemic which they continue even when massive information tries to warn them against its ravages.
They can't help themselves to rid themselves, because they are trying to drown the anguish, that "white privilege is no longer giving them first access and first options in everything. No One wishes such devastation upon these group of people, but no one an help them when the root driving motivation is within their minds, and their obsession of anguish because they can not longer live as if they are white and superior to others and they can no longer get access and first choice, based on simply being white.

Time and life has changed, employer now seek out "people who have invested in skills", but they also seek out people who have the capability and willingness to "work with others as equals". Employers post jobs, and claim they can't find qualified people. Which should tell this group, they can no longer use blind hair, blue eyes, and body shape and body height, and white skin as the only criteria.. yet, they yell discrimination, when the fact is, the employer inthe world of today, has invested in Technology, and Informational/Tech Integration of their systems, and will only pay and invest in training those who have demonstrated themselves as being self motivated and self invested in skill development, that shows a demonstrated potential to become and be a productive asset and one who has the humane capability to know how not to bring racist bias and race bigotry and prejudice stupidity into the workforce.
companies today, are not going to accept anything less. Because they are not going to hire people who create a Human Resource Nightmare, which diminishes productivity and cause social havoc in the workplace, and become a monetary drain on capital resource.

So, when they cry we've been left behind.. NO... they RAN BACKWARDS, in their lusting after desiring the past and trying to recreate the past. This is exemplified in the Ideals of Trump.. who thinks the world will go back to the 1950's youthful world of segregationist bias and bigotry and prejudice, where everything was white dominated, and what authority controlled the economic industrial and business atmosphere and facilities.
That kind of vile past is never to return in America. These are many of the reasons why the Republican Party is dominantly made up of white people, they are grouped as such, who are the make up of white people who cry and scream they have been forgotten, the Neo Nazi's, The White Nationalist, The White Separatist, the Right Wing White Evangelicals who for centuries and decades supported racial bias, racial divisiveness, and held on to racial prejudices, among the many white hate Groups by the many various names they use.

GHW Bush did not openly and directly pander to these groups, and Obama, said openly and directly, "Let's Rebuild America, and Let's Do It So EVERYONE Has Accessibility in Opportunity" He also said, All Americans people Must prepare themselves to be able to meet the needs of that Opportunity. Obama set out to help relieve the unbearable debt imposed upon students, and set forth to restore the accessibility and remove the burden from community colleges and roll back the excessive cost that had been imposed upon people who seek to go to State Universities. He said... Opportunity would open for all who prepare themselves for Opportunity.

When he said those things, the Wealthy amassed and led the poor whites and dire poor whites to go into all out attack upon and against Obama and the Administration. They formed the Tea Party, and fired up the the Neo Nazi's, The White Nationalist, The White Separatist, the Right Wing White Evangelicals- to push forward with the same 'hate agenda they previously promoted during the 1960's. They have been attacking anything and everything they think will benefit "ALL" American People as a whole. They want to recreate the 1950's where everything was directed to "white only".

We have DeVos attacking every aspect of education, and trying to roll thing as far back to Pre 1954 as she can. They have again, absolutely no thought that everything she destroys, will also be destroyed for working poor and dire poor whites as well, but many don't care... all they care about is how much damage they think it will do to minorities and how much it can set back women.

When it comes to Environmental Matters, they never stop to think how it impact the poor whites who live in the fringes and the rural run down and fast declining areas, all they can think of, is "it will benefit the wealthy" because they still cling to the desperation of thinking the wealthy will give them something. It's the darn'est stupid thing that continues to persist within their minds and their vain self centered desires.

These are the same people, who detest paying taxes, because they cling to the ideal of a time when public tax money, only went to build up white only communities, as a means and process to keep taxes low, while they benefited from the tax money of minorities. They resent the fact that taxes must be improved and in some cases increased to be utilized for "ALL" people and "ALL" communities.



There are many reasons why the Majority of American Public Does Not like Trump!!! One among the many is, because the America's Public knows that we are not going to recreate the 1950's and we are not going to go back into the bias and bigotry that raged across the nation of the 1950's and early 1960's. The America people who detest Trump know we are not going to go back to a white dominated society where white people controlled everything, and we are not going back to a system where white society thought it could ration out rights and benefits to women and minorities, based on scraps left after white people took everything as a first option for themselves.

Society and the World is Moving Forward... Foreign Nation are No Longer submitting themselves to be dictated to, or covertly influenced by America, and they will No Longer allow American Investment to be done in ways that give American influence in their politics and influence in their economic systems. Trump can rail all he wants against our Allies, but the people of the Allied Nations, know they can no longer allow American investment be done in ways that give America power to influence their nations internal policies and governance systems.

These Nation awakened to by and through the "age of information technology" to learn that they gave America too much influential power in their nations for the investments America made in their nations. They are however, appreciative of the American investing in their nations, but they want it done where it is "mutually agreed upon as a Mutual Benefit, that does not invade their governance of themselves and their nation. These nations watch, as they see China, invest in their nation, but they see China doing so, as a "Mutual Benefit through Cooperative Mutual Agreements, which does not seek to gain dominant influence in the nations governmental affairs.

Right Winger Republican System and Ideology, does not want to give up the long held power and influence and the ability to manipulate foreign nations, for the sake of improved International relations and acts and efforts to have diplomatic peace.

Trump demonstrated that with the damages he has done to our Diplomatic Corp, and his direct and incessant attacks upon NATO and the Insulting and degrading ways he deals with the UN by the conduct of Nicki Haley and the constant conflicts she initiates within the UN Assembly.

Trump wants to tell the world, that America's money should give it dominant influence and the ability to dictate policy... and the Global Nations, are saying "NO MORE"... They are reminding America that the money America pledged, is based on Nations GDP... and that does not give one nation power over other nations. Trump wants what existed in the past, when these nations did not have information, which technology has given them, and they did not have the independent ability to craft agreement and policy with other nations without American approval.

These Nations are telling America, they don't need America's approval as if American is their Boss and the Dictator over them. They are telling America to respect the independent sovereignty of each nation as an independent self governing nation among nations. America under Trump does not want to give that respect to other Nation, they want the dictatorial power it had in the Post World War II era when these nations were rebuilding.

America is trying to tell these nations, it owes us for helping them. When these nations are telling America, the Post World War II agreement were a "mutual help" program agreed to for the building of equanimity among nation. Not, one that was of design to give American dominance over all other nations. These nations were before too weak to stand up for themselves, but the age of information and the system of global trade has given them the ability to stand up to the "bully on the block", and they are saying "NO MORE".. they are saying, WE as a world of Nation must meet on Diplomatic Terms of Mutual Respect and Mutual Regard and a Playing Filed of Equality as Nation and People.

They are telling America, that the agreement was that the most economically prosperous would pay in relations to their GDP... as agreed. Nothing more. Everything else will be dealt with through Balanced Fair Play Diplomatic Negotiations. Trump can't digest that!!!! he wants the abuse system to continue, even when America is strapped with internal debt.
Our debt has nothing to do with agreements based on GDP figures. We incurred the debt and our debt has nothing to do with our International Agreement that were based on GDP. Our Debt is due to "internal greed of the wealthy"... it has nothing to do with laying blame on the working poor and the dire poor of this society.



It was GHW Bush's wars, and the explosion of massive greed devastating and exportation Industry, for the sake of seeking slave wages labor in lands where American did not respect the people or the nation in which it ran to with exportation of industry in its global search for slave wage labor.

President Obama's plans to help ALL Americans, met with a devastated economy and massive economic draining wars, and an incessant attack by Republicans, as well as many Right Leaning Democrats who did not support and stand in support of the ideals to help "ALL" Americans. Many of these same Right Leaning Democrats did not stand up and promote the policies to help "ALL" people, they did not get out and present to the public the ideals and programs that Obama's Administration designed to help "ALL" America people., Sadly, some of the same Right Leaning Democrats were not unlike some of the white people were duing the Jim Crow era, they feared the Right Wing Republican, the same as people did during the reign of Jim Crow Racism and Segregation. Because some of them grew up within and through the grooming of Jim Crow ideals. They could not reconcile, that they needed to change within their minds and heart to devote themselves to "Full Circle Human Equality in the Civic and Civil Society of American People, and they abdicated their role and hold on the Political Congress to the Republicans soon as Obama got the Economy off its Knees.
They fell victim to the same Selective Amnesia that is a constant standard within the Republican System
and their followers mentality.

This became part of the same system where people chose position and some chose silence, not to support and promote full humane equality in America, and they stood in position with silence, as a stand against the demolition of the basis and function of white privilege. Some went to the Independents, and other ran to the Greed Party, all seeking means to avoid standing in support and promoting the demolition of white privilege, instead of standing up for "Democracy's basis and principles of Human Equality in Civic, Civil and Social and Economic Society.

Trumps presence has exposed the vile of madness and presented again in America the reality of what negative vile, bias and bigotry that once created the pre-1964 society and the devastation it invoked in the social atmosphere along with the civic imbalances that once raged across this nation.

People detested the work of LBJ, when he set out to create programs to elevate the economics of all people, and eradice the wide spread of poverty, and he was distracted by the military industrial system by their lies and crafted deceptions known as the Gulf of Tonkin which escalated the Vietnam War, thus distorting the programs for the broad base of Civil and Economic Rights, which was of design to empower the people, "ALL" people in America to build and have a Great Society where Equal Rights was Equal for All in both social, civic, civil and economic uplift for ALL of American People.

Then we resulted to have the madness of Richard Nixon, who created a mess in America and damaged our political system and brought the Dixiecrats to invade and take over the Republican Party with direct aims to seek and try to overturn as much of Civil Rights Legislation as he could, his exportation of Ore Processing to China set in motion the damages that have only escalated in harms to our industrial and ultimately our overall economic system as well as set in motion a inflationary period that Carter could not stop, and that was followed up by Ronald Reagan, who set in motion a Right Wing Agenda, that has grown more vile over the decades since.

Trump cannot return America to the 1950's, not economically, and not socially and not by damages to our Civic System and our Civil processes of our Governance system. He cannot recreate white dominance in business and industry, and he cannot create the hardships denials of Multi cultural people the accessibility to opportunity in education or jobs or community concerns; No matter how many Agencies, Departments, Division and Organizations he attacks, No matter how much of social norms he tries to sow divisiveness, and no matter how much he tries to delude the people, that he can bring back industry, that shall never be brought back. Technology is widespread around the world, and it will not reverse itself and it will not stagnate itself and it certainly will not re-create the mechanized industrial age.

A segment of society may aspire to "Categorical Illiteracy", but the broader society will expand and expound on improving overall Literacy in every Category. The lack of understanding of the power of Democracy by some, will not destroy Democracy for All.

Just As President Obama said: We must recreate and rebuild America with Industry and Business, Technology and Education designed to build the Future, NOT waste our time and efforts trying and recreate and bring back the past.



We must as citizens of America, RE-Invest ourselves in "Civic's Education". Which means we muse modify our educational system to be one that is designed to promote a better future for all. When we do so, we will modify how our Education System is focused and what it teaches, to better improve the society and its ability to work to build the Future that America is to become.




Tldr
 
Old 07-29-2018, 05:56 PM
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Let's face it, y'all: Leftists will never get over an election they clearly lost, and the power that they think is rightfully theirs really isn't. Our republic's future is brighter than it's been in three decades, but the problem is not democracy. Right now, it's trying to restore some semblance of civility among groups of people who will always disagree on things.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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Because people like points....on a board like this.....is it refreshing to see a really good point....of course it is.


The entire post is against the right....as all of the OPs posts are. So, to say he is not insulting people, he is insulting all those on the right.


BTW, did you notice the different "font" within the first few paragraphs? Wonder why/how that happened?
By use of the "formatting tools" made available within the site.

As to what is a Forum: It is a discussion forum, which means that "many variables can be discussed, and discussion and commentary can and in this case does "interlink" to address a multitude of variables, because within living, many variables are interlinked in everyday living.

Brevity has a place, when like minds are talking about like things with a like knowledge base of what they are engaging.
This place is evident that it is not of like minds, and it is not with the same like knowledge base, therefore it is more respectful to write out what one is speaking about, not just a blimp and rely on generalized assumption to convey the point. Such callous reliance is why there is so much conflict and misunderstanding within society, because people are in a great many situations, ill equipped for brevity, and become in many instance callous in the aims to rely on brevity.

I've said since I came to this site, I don't care to be brief, in what I write, because I see the expanse of varying mindsets that engage here; and certainly one has to be careful and mindful before relying on raw common sense, because common sense is often influenced by the emotional state of the individual at the time they engage it.

Nothing just happens, there a history to all things... and it is quite relevant to current things in how current things came into being. Ignore history and damage the present and likely severely wound the unforeseen future.

I force no one nor do I want to force anyone to read anything. Each user here is in full control of their own computer and what they do with it. I have many places to write, including my own blog and have been doing so for decades...

People don't read, I've repeatedly stated that I am not of any racist agenda, but I am not going to by pass the reality of the racism that is historical nor that which currently exist. I speak equally so, of the benefit of working poor and poor white society in what I write and how best to gain those benefits that are potential and possible.

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Learning is always a life long process, the same as re-learning is of great value, to re-learn what we thought we knew with context and perspectives, that we can become to learn and know more.

That is a purely a choice each individual has... whether they use it, is up to them.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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Let's face it, y'all: Leftists will never get over an election they clearly lost, and the power that they think is rightfully theirs really isn't. Our republic's future is brighter than it's been in three decades, but the problem is not democracy. Right now, it's trying to restore some semblance of civility among groups of people who will always disagree on things.
Leftists didn't lose, because Republican voters elected a leftist for President. And in typical leftist fashion, they're too dumb to realize it.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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Finally a comment that actually makes sense. The US was started and ruled by wealthy landownders, American aristocrats, and we have been ruled by an aristocracy of wealth ever since. We have given the average man the opportunity to live a decent life if he works for it, if he brings his employer more wealth than he makes for himself. Sure there are exceptions, but they are examples of economic successes by a handful of people. But they don't get there by bucking the system, they get there because the system embraces them and they embrace it.
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The U.S. has never been, and never will be, a democracy.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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TRANSLATION: President Trump really kicked our butts in Nov. 2016, and continues to do it on an almost daily basis ever since. And we haven't been able to figure out anything we can do about it, besides call him names, insult him, insult the American people, and keep telling the same lies that we have recited about every Republican president since Reagan.

We may need to have a Massive Nationwide Suicide Watch after November 2018 - lasting for 6 years.
Leftist have gone completely Bonkers.

America is Awakened- There WILL NOT be a continuation of the devastation Trump and Republican have engaged

There will NOT be six years more of Trump!!!


They are just not anything close to Normal - they are in a Total Hysterical Meltdown with no end in sight.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:41 PM
 
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Well, we know at least one symptom of TDS is vitriol. I've never seen such venomous hatred being spewed at any president in my lifetime. As much as the right despised Barry, it wasn't to this level.

President Trump must be doing everything right..............yep.

Yes, America has awakened. The Right is awake, very awake.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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By use of the "formatting tools" made available within the site.

As to what is a Forum: It is a discussion forum, which means that "many variables can be discussed, and discussion and commentary can and in this case does "interlink" to address a multitude of variables, because within living, many variables are interlinked in everyday living.

Brevity has a place, when like minds are talking about like things with a like knowledge base of what they are engaging.
This place is evident that it is not of like minds, and it is not with the same like knowledge base, therefore it is more respectful to write out what one is speaking about, not just a blimp and rely on generalized assumption to convey the point. Such callous reliance is why there is so much conflict and misunderstanding within society, because people are in a great many situations, ill equipped for brevity, and become in many instance callous in the aims to rely on brevity.

I've said since I came to this site, I don't care to be brief, in what I write, because I see the expanse of varying mindsets that engage here; and certainly one has to be careful and mindful before relying on raw common sense, because common sense is often influenced by the emotional state of the individual at the time they engage it.

Nothing just happens, there a history to all things... and it is quite relevant to current things in how current things came into being. Ignore history and damage the present and likely severely wound the unforeseen future.

I force no one nor do I want to force anyone to read anything. Each user here is in full control of their own computer and what they do with it. I have many places to write, including my own blog and have been doing so for decades...

No writer puts the font in a different size font (especially SMALLER..)....they may italicize it.....but never a smaller size font




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People don't read, I've repeatedly stated that I am not of any racist agenda, but I am not going to by pass the reality of the racism that is historical nor that which currently exist. I speak equally so, of the benefit of working poor and poor white society in what I write and how best to gain those benefits that are potential and possible.

Lets say I agree with you......I would not read your posts....ever....they are just to damn long. Figure out what you want to say, and say it....
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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History is already recorded... because I speak of it, does not make me racist. History in American was filled with racism... denial won't make that history go away. I addressed the constituency make up of ethnic demographics of the Republican party, if you have issue with that reality, you are welcome to look with your own eyes, as the reality of the party's ethnic make. That is not me being racist, that is point to a visible fact.

I've countless times emphasized and stressed the fact, that the discussion or historical racism is America, does not make one a racist. it is being aware and addressing what is historically documented. You nor I can erase that history, and trying to deny its historical existence does not make it go away.

There is no open season of white people, there is the reality of life today, that voices can speak in ways that the were not available decades about, therefore white people were never accustom to the general public speaking about white history of documented racism. I did not create it, if one actually reads, they can find more articles about it, than one has time to actually read.

In everyday life... I find white people whom are in my general societal area to be quite interactive, as well as socially considerate as simply being people. I get white humor, and i also get the fact that today, many white people face the same challenges as many minorities. I've written about it, but as with your comment, and others who panic anytime the see the words "white people", their minds go blank and can't digest context and perspective and they do that by their choice to do so.
Heck I see much stuff in black society that is equally distressing and equally as challenging, and I see as much in some sectors of black society where people have not prepared themselves to meet the challenges that will come in the future, heck, I see some who have not met the challenges to be productively function in today's society.
this post was addressing many aspects of "political party make up"... and if you read the history of political parties, it will be found that Parties are not what they were in early 1960's, there has been many changes in parties over the span of America, but the Republican Party of Today, was modified in the take over by the Dixiecrats ideology, and that too is documented if one cares to read it.

Today, I see black, white and other ethnic groups that are devastated, both as individuals and as communities, I see people black, white and other, who today, have no voice in the job sector, and I stand against any who stand against "Unions", because I worked in a Union Shop before, and I know the benefits it afforded and the stability in industry which existed when Union Shops existed predominately, I also worked through the wage progressions that were customary in Union shops and the benefit packages that was negotiated on behalf of the employees. I also know, Union shop created the American Middle Class as it once existed, and since Unions have been attacked, so too has the Middle Class shrank and in some areas it simply does not exist to a living standard.

I can't make white people not panic, when they see the words "white people', that purely on them. But denying historical truths is not helpful to anyone. Problems can't be fixed if they are ignorance or the denial of their existence. I solve problems everyday at work. Some that seem purely insidious, but I can't focus on the fact that its insidious, I have to take into account the insidiousness of it and address the factors within and of it, and fixing problems is as much a effort and act in cultural change as it is addressing the mechanics of the problem itself.

Before you push out your commentary about trying to call me racist, to go out in society and actually pay attention. I see EVERYDAY, white people as destitute and challenged as I see among black society, and in my line of work... I don't get the position to discriminate, I help "all" with equal effort and equal compassion, and I also deal with the cultural things that exist for "people' in making the adjustment that can benefit their lives and their opportunity. I will help a homeless white person, as equal as I will help a black homeless person. As well in the workplace I help black and with with the same investment of effort, energy and dedications.
I wrote for decades about Men and Women Relations, but it did not lead me to dislike men, nor dislike women, not to mistreat men or mistreat women. I write and read to learn, to grow, to address the common and the uncommon and the pleasant and not so pleasant, the vile and the good, as well as many other benefits that come through reading and writing.
I will not write less, because people get sent on their tangents by "words" that incite triggers in them to shut down their mind, and get hung up on "words that make them uncomfortable'... CONTEXT and PERSPECTIVE "always" matters. There are no Perfect People in there World... the history of trying to paint that delusion has done more damage than it has done good for the overall society of any people.

Some come to these Forums too busy trying to label a writer, rather than to address and reflect and expound and engage the elements of what is actually written. Anything one does not agree with, they are freed to address it and find supporting information to back up what they say. If they choose not to do so, that is something I will not make become a problem for me.

I've never been and likely never be one who is driven to write one liners, nor slap stick two liners. I write about subject matter and expound on what makes up subject matter, and it is not a one dimension one variable thing. Because everything within the human sphere of living is interlinked.
I have never seen a poster so desperate to be a $500 post winner. The dude fails each and every time.You keep reaching for the stars honey.
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