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Old 07-30-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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Where are we going to get the money to pay the 33 trillion that it costs?
Where are we getting the money to pay for the 50 trillion that the current system costs? Which doesnt provide health care to all...
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Where are we going to get the money to pay the 33 trillion that it costs?
The same place where the current system of $50bil comes from?

Except less.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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$33 trillion? What's our national debt now $20 trillion? Those are mind-boggling numbers.
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:48 PM
 
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Medicare for all is still cheaper than our current system with the added benefit of covering everyone, creating healthier and more productive citizens, and eliminating health care costs for businesses.
I want to believe that, but we know it’s going to make our current healthcare unavailable. Hospitals will shut down and we’ll be waiting years for a knee replacement surgery. Canada has about as many people as our most populous state. We have 250,000,000 (give or take) more people than they do, and we don’t control our borders as well as Canada does. We have nearly as many illegal immigrants as Canada’s entire population. What are we going to do with them? We would have to kick them out or make them all citizens, neither of which will happen. Then we are still left with millions of uninsured people. Where will they get care?
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:55 PM
 
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Where are we getting the money to pay for the 50 trillion that the current system costs? Which doesnt provide health care to all...
Where are you getting this number? I tried to find it and could only find projections of federal healthcare spending at $5.7 trillion (a lot, but nowhere close to $50 trillion). Are you including private insurance?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.42f14f21e9f5
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Trump is against healthcare for everyone, yet he wants to waste money on a ridiculous wall?
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:02 AM
 
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Trump is against healthcare for everyone, yet he wants to waste money on a ridiculous wall?
If you want “free” healthcare, you better want that wall. We can’t have both an open border and universal healthcare.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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The projected costs of the CURRENT health care system is over $50 trillion in the next decade. $17 trillion more than this. And still we have tens of millions who are not properly covered and people have huge deductibles and co-pays which will be virtually eliminated in a single payer system.

Seems to be a classic case of the corporate media just throwing out a big number, to rile people up, while "forgetting" to tell what the current system is costing us.

If there was a single-payer medical program, the total cost to our society would be less than it is now and many more people would be covered. The coverage would be much better, as well. The insurance companies and HMOs would be out of luck, but the medical profession, clinics and hospitals would thrive, with more work to do. Also, the politicians would not be skimming so much money out of the system, with bribes from lobbyists.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:58 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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So, Bernie wants to spend approx. $100,000 for each man, woman, and child in the country?

A cool half million for a family of five, like mine?

And he says this is SAVING money?

And that Americans are already spending MORE than that?

No wonder he lost.


(BTW, couldn't find the thread that this is supposed to be a duplicate of)
im 100% sure you realize that since you dont spend 100,000 now, you wouldnt be under this system.
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:03 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Where are you getting this number? I tried to find it and could only find projections of federal healthcare spending at $5.7 trillion (a lot, but nowhere close to $50 trillion). Are you including private insurance?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.42f14f21e9f5

The original article being referenced by the OP says 32 trillion over 10 years.

Your link says 5.7 a year, by 2025. Its at 3.4 now. So even if you used 3.4 as a low end estimate, it means we save 2 Trillion under the Sanders plan.
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