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Old 08-02-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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Manafort was sure spreading something but it wasn't democracy and he profited very handsomely from the Pro-Russian Party.

So did hillary and bill. Where is the outrage about THEM from the left?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So did hillary and bill. Where is the outrage about THEM from the left?
You show us evidence, we'll show you outrage.

How's that for a deal...?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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The usual deflection to Obama.


Trump was totally unaware of Manfort's work for Victor Yanukovych, never heard about hi apartment in Ukraine. If true that isn't a ringing endorsement for Trump's judgement when it comes to selecting executives, out of all the possible candidates Manfort was the best he could come up with?

"The usual deflection to Obama."


Why do want to ignore ALL this HAPPENED UNDER Obama and his admin?


Why didn't THEY stop it?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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"The usual deflection to Obama."


Why do want to ignore ALL this HAPPENED UNDER Obama and his admin?


Why didn't THEY stop it?
McConnell blocked the effort, probably because his pockets are full of rubles as much as Tangerine Tojo.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It won't do Manafort much good to be pardoned on this tax charge because he will still be exposed violation of State law. While NY has a statute that they cannot sue a person who has been pardoned at the Fed level for the same crime I am confident that they can work around that. Likely he owes other states taxes as well.

A pardon also destroys any right not to testify against himself so that may expose others in the Trump circle to liability. Manafort is rolling the dice on conviction or not, he would rather be found not guilty than pardoned.

I agree with others that he will not turn state's evidence as he is safer in prison than on the street and exposed to retaliation.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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"The usual deflection to Obama."


Why do want to ignore ALL this HAPPENED UNDER Obama and his admin?


Why didn't THEY stop it?
So why don't the Republican controlled Senate and the Republican controlled House of Representatives do something? Could it be because they don't have diddly squat?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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I suspect that Manafort will be reluctant to flip because of Putin. Prison is probably the more pleasant option.

As to a Trump pardon, I thought Manafort was on trial in Virginia on state charges. No?
No. He's being tried on federal charges in the U.S. District court in the Eastern District of Virginia.
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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During his testimony, Katzman, who was manager at his father's store Alan Couture, described several invoices for Manafort:

Manafort bought four suits and two trousers for $15,195, according to one invoice, for instance, Katzman said.
In total, Manafort spent on average $100,000 with the store every year from 2010 to 2012. In 2013, Manafort spent $443,160 at the store, Katzman said.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...ial/index.html

"Judge admonishes prosecutors for spending too much time on Manafort’s lifestyle"


"Ellis, who warned prosecutors against using the word “oligarchs” to describe wealthy Ukrainians, several times admonished them for spending so much time documenting Manafort’s extravagant lifestyle. It’s not a crime to be wealthy, he noted. And the pejorative term “oligarchs” and evidence of home renovations aren’t necessarily relevant to the charges in question, he added.
“The government doesn’t want to prosecute somebody because they wear nice clothes, do they?” Ellis said amid testimony that Manafort had spent more than $900,000 on clothing from a boutique retailer where he was one of only about 40 clients. “Let’s move on.”


https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ju...rts-lifestyle/
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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No. He's being tried on federal charges in the U.S. District court in the Eastern District of Virginia.
Thanks.

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Old 08-02-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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So why don't the Republican controlled Senate and the Republican controlled House of Representatives do something? Could it be because they don't have diddly squat?
So why don't YOU take a lesson on how Congress works.

The House HAS passed LOTS of bills.

Then they go to the Senate.

ALL spending bills REQUIRE a 60 vote majority to pass.

The DEMS have BLOCKED any bill the can.

You have diddly squat!
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