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Old 07-31-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why are some people so concerned with trying to downplay the societal concerns of minority groups? It's like they're obsessed with trying to prove that blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc don't ever face any adversity and that their issues aren't real to THEM.
You're the only one saying that. Make something else up.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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UGH The Lefty narrative is that white racist cops are murdering young black men like modern day clansmen...

They are seeking to cast the Police as the enemy.



I say if you are doing the crime then you should expect some problems from the Police. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with stupidity.

If the cops pull you over do not cop an entitlement attitude, follow their directions, don't make any sudden moves and don't run. If they are in the wrong you might get an apology and off you go. If YOU are in the wrong then it is time to face the music and you live another day.



It is not that hard people.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Media=false news
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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According to a database maintained by the Washington Post, as of 7/9 of this year 591 people been have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers this year so far. Of those 591 people, 113 were black, 237 were white, 81 were Hispanic. This means that less than 1/4 of those shot and killed were black.



Watching the mainstream media, you would think that only blacks are shot and killed by police!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...hootings-2018/
Police shootings are a concern for all citizens regardless of color.

The problem with any such study would be classifying the circumstances around which they were shot, whether they were armed etc. as well as estimating the number of similar incidents based upon arrest reports so that you have a common denominator.

The reason police shootings of blacks are more publicized would be due to a number of high-profile shootings and attempted cover-ups like the murder of Laquan McDonald in Chicago.

It would be entirely illogical if there were some sort of bias towards shooting blacks to assume that there wouldn't be more questionable and salacious shootings of blacks and thus more media coverage.

With that being said the key issue is WHERE because large urban areas with lots of black residents having police forces with the worst reputations and the most political "cover" due to unions and party affiliation.

That is one possibly contributor that many people choke on accepting.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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what is the pctg. of African Americans in the US, careful now...statistics are hard
If you factor in who commits the most crime per capita, then AA's should be shot even more. But that aside, you should see protests and stories representative of the breakdown in shootings. So you should at least see MORE reporting and outrage of other races combined than blacks, but you don't.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Want a real eye opener...take those numbers and compute them as a percentage of police interactions, which will give you the probability of being shot and killed by a police officer. What you'll find is that non-Hispanic Whites have a higher probability of a police interaction ending in fatality than either blacks or Hispanics.

Plenty of studies done on this various topic since the "#handsupdontshoot nonsense in Ferguson. All come to the same conclusion based on the same data. There is no "war on unarmed, innocent black people" and whites are slightly more likely to die at the hands of police AS A PERCENTAGE OF INTERACTIONS and in raw totals, than are blacks.

So yes, it is a myth perpetuated by media. One of the top 10 myths of the last decade by my guess.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...ent_report.pdf
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Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather
than by public safety needs. This emphasis on revenue has compromised the institutional
character of Ferguson’s police department, contributing to a pattern of unconstitutional policing,
and has also shaped its municipal court, leading to procedures that raise due process concerns
and inflict unnecessary harm on members of the Ferguson community. Further, Ferguson’s
police and municipal court practices both reflect and exacerbate existing racial bias, including
racial stereotypes
. Ferguson’s own data establish clear racial disparities that adversely impact
African Americans. The evidence shows that discriminatory intent is part of the reason for these
disparities
.
*emphasis mine
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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It has nothing to do with race
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...ent_report.pdf
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Ferguson’s own data establish clear racial disparities that adversely impact
African Americans. The evidence shows that discriminatory intent is part of the reason for these
disparities.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ice-department
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In addition, the department also identified serious concerns about the prevalence of racially discriminatory conduct by some CPD officers and the degree to which that conduct is tolerated and in some respects caused by deficiencies in CPD’s systems of training, supervision and accountability.


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It is not that hard people.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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More White people are killed by the Police in America, because there are more White People (63 % of the population) and
Considering about 12 percent of the population is African American.

Then it still means that overall, black Americans are several times more likely to be killed in a Police Shooting than a White American.
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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what is the pctg. of African Americans in the US, careful now...statistics are hard
3% of the population (black males 16-30 or something similar) commit 50% of the murders. Blacks commit the majority of crimes
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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3% of the population (black males 16-30 or something similar) commit 50% of the murders. Blacks commit the majority of crimes
Males commit the majority of crimes.

Also, it's possible that blacks commit the majority of crimes and the police are still discriminatory

https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...ent_report.pdf
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Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather
than by public safety needs. This emphasis on revenue has compromised the institutional
character of Ferguson’s police department, contributing to a pattern of unconstitutional policing,
and has also shaped its municipal court, leading to procedures that raise due process concerns
and inflict unnecessary harm on members of the Ferguson community. Further, Ferguson’s
police and municipal court practices both reflect and exacerbate existing racial bias, including
racial stereotypes. Ferguson’s own data establish clear racial disparities that adversely impact
African Americans. The evidence shows that discriminatory intent is part of the reason for these
disparities.
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