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Old 08-01-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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We've already seen this movie, and we know exactly how it will turn out. You would think that since it happened right next door, South Africans would be smart enough to know it too. But apparently not.


Sorry, white South Africans, there is no longer any future for you in your country. Get out now, while you still can.
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Me thinks some folks don't realize you posted tongue firmly in cheek. LMAO

So true too.
Shhhh......I really do want that poster to respond, so I'll just act like I don't get it.
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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We've already seen this movie, and we know exactly how it will turn out. You would think that since it happened right next door, South Africans would be smart enough to know it too. But apparently not.


Sorry, white South Africans, there is no longer any future for you in your country. Get out now, while you still can.
That is not what the amendments said... its about "Land"....
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Old 08-01-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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Rectifying wrongs in history is not a race card, the division of land was done by acts of race bias, therefore, the choice of a country to make rectifying changes is the nations choice to rectify such changes. The same as many were done in rectifying many of the acts promoted by Apartheid.

If education has been served 'fairly" then there would be no disparity in the capability of the people. thus so, if they make the educational changes in how education is promoted going forward, then they will prosper as would and as does any nation where education is fairly engaged.

The destiny of the African Nations... is reshaping itself everyday to make just what was made unjust by the encroachments of the Europeans who brought the "gun" to Africa. Africa, was in the earliest history, a nation with robust trade in the known world in the long history of its being. Today, Africa makes Trade Agreements with nation, that are today, driven by "Cooperate Agreements", not Coercer'd Dictations and Brutal Dominance, they make trade agreements today that are with every element of and for mutual benefit.
The world was never going to remain being driven by Imperialist Ideals and Format, and it was never going to remain driven by Imperialist Agenda.

It would benefit many to research and learn of Ancient African History and its Trade Relations and Trade Routes which were established long before European's left the continent of Europe in search of resources.

The world of nations was never going to remain usurped by European Ideals nor European Agenda, that is the hard reality that many of the Anglo European make up has difficult digesting and facing such fact and truth. History has shown over many centuries the acts and stands of nation to rid themselves of the British invasive claims and brutal dominance by the force of weapons, the likes of India, Africa, China and other lands have never willingly nor submissively given themselves over to submission unto such forces of tyranny upon their lands nor over their people. The British came to know this, and they became to acknowledge and accept that such dominance would not stand forever, nor would the ideals they sought to impose upon the people, would not dominate and destroy the cultural and ethnic nature and values of the people of those lands.

Sadly, today... the U.S. which has not resolved its own race and bias issues, nor its ethnicity bias matters, nor its matters of true rights of land, has no say in what and how Africa makes its corrective acts. American should be focused on how does it move forward to first acknowledge the need for corrective acts and then to face the fact of how to make those corrective acts.

People would do well to study, the history of the the various other nations people that came to America in its earliest days.
Some nations did not amass themselves to encroach with disregard and disrespect upon and against the Native American in the ways that many other parts of the European people chose to do.


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History has many truths that are becoming known, Regarding Africa, there were many groups in Africa who were agriculturally proficient long before Europeans entered upon the lands of Africa.

Likewise so, regarding agriculture in American, there were Native American Tribes who were adept at agriculture and domesticated many types of crops, long before the Europeans came to American, and many that were marched across Africa from the central sectors of Africa, knew agriculture long before they were captured and exported to America as slaves. They now only knew the Agriculture, they were the masses who made Agriculture flourish in America.
Will SA have to deteriorate to 3rd world status before you realize the SA whites add value to SA? Must SA become the new Zimbabwe, because that's where it is headed. Taking farmer's land is just the 1st step. Next will be expropriating white owned businesses and giving them to the politically connected.
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Old 08-01-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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We've already seen this movie, and we know exactly how it will turn out. You would think that since it happened right next door, South Africans would be smart enough to know it too. But apparently not.


Sorry, white South Africans, there is no longer any future for you in your country. Get out now, while you still can.

I think most people realize that South Africa is is a ****ed up country slowly slipping into anarchy.


What I find amazing is a couple of posters here who support such hare-brained plans. I hope they do not get into positions of power in this country or else we will starve too.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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Will SA have to deteriorate to 3rd world status before you realize the SA whites add value to SA? Must SA become the new Zimbabwe, because that's where it is headed. Taking farmer's land is just the 1st step. Next will be expropriating white owned businesses and giving them to the politically connected.
I have not advocated anything about no white being in SA... My commentary is about "LAND" in response to the heading of the article.

They likely are not talking about people with a few 100 acres, or maybe a few thousands acres, they likely are talking about people who have 10's of thousands of acres.

Headline news is never going to speak about the real details, it would take investigative reporting to clarify specifically what they are talking about. I doubt they'd go after people who cultivate multiple 100's of acres, or even those who may cultivate a few thousands, but the people who make claims of 10's of thousands of Acres that they are doing nothing with it, except claiming ownership. That sounds more in line with what would be a considered address in what they speak about.
That volume of land in the count of many thousands and 10's of thousand acres likely was not acquired by any means was fair and just in the laws that have removed Apartheid and Established a more Just System of Laws that does not have roots and base in the racism that Apartheid was built upon, and it certainly did not benefit all the people of SA as a whole in Just Law. Therefore, considering the repressions invoked by Apartheid, it likely was not acquired by any legal means that hold up to full legal scrutiny under a system of Just System of Laws. Especially when, considering the contorted laws that created Apartheid, and the imposition imposed upon the non white people of SA during Apartheid. Than land will revert back to the State.

How the State then markets its parcels, becomes done under a system of Just Laws that are Just to ALL SA people.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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And I hope they’re tried for treason and executed.
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The plight of white farmers in South Africa and Zimbabwe is near and dear to white supremacists and imperialists everywhere. No one else cares.
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Seize the means of production.
Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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The whites didn't steal the land at gunpoint. They didn't steal the land at all.


The whites got there first, and the blacks immigrated later to work in the industries created by the whites.
When the first White settlers immigrated to South Africa hundreds of years ago they encountered the Khoisan people. So the Whites were not there first. When Whites started claiming land for farms, they got into conflict with Khoisan people.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Not surprised this came from a movement started by, and implemented by two racist, and tribal murderers, Nelson, and Winnie Mandela. Genocide, mixed with Totalitarian Communism. The old tale yet again.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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I have not advocated anything about no white being in SA... My commentary is about "LAND" in response to the heading of the article.

They likely are not talking about people with a few 100 acres, or maybe a few thousands acres, they likely are talking about people who have 10's of thousands of acres.

Headline news is never going to speak about the real details, it would take investigative reporting to clarify specifically what they are talking about. I doubt they'd go after people who cultivate multiple 100's of acres, or even those who may cultivate a few thousands, but the people who make claims of 10's of thousands of Acres that they are doing nothing with it, except claiming ownership. That sounds more in line with what would be a considered address in what they speak about.
That volume of land in the count of many thousands and 10's of thousand acres likely was not acquired by any means was fair and just in the laws that have removed Apartheid and Established a more Just System of Laws that does not have roots and base in the racism that Apartheid was built upon, and it certainly did not benefit all the people of SA as a whole in Just Law. Therefore, considering the repressions invoked by Apartheid, it likely was not acquired by any legal means that hold up to full legal scrutiny under a system of Just System of Laws. Especially when, considering the contorted laws that created Apartheid, and the imposition imposed upon the non white people of SA during Apartheid. Than land will revert back to the State.

How the State then markets its parcels, becomes done under a system of Just Laws that are Just to ALL SA people.
Time will tell how far they will take things. Meanwhile the electric grid and other infrastructure is starting to collapse due to poor mgt and corruption under the current regime, violent crime is beyond anything most Americans can comprehend, whites are increasingly getting their kids out of a country that is denying many of them the ability to get a college education and/or gainful employment due to quota systems that have been put into place, and healthcare is deteriorating due to poor mgt and corruption.

I've heard directly from people in SA on the reality of a steadily deteriorating situation. On the violent crime aspect, whites are living in walled neighborhoods with razor wire and glass shards on top of those walls and with security at entrances, and within those walls in homes with bars on all the windows and doors, oftentimes a 2nd wall around just their home, and protocols for how to most safely exit their homes and neighborhoods.

Things are getting bad in SA and the brain drain associated with whites fleeing is not helping SA's prospects.
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