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View Poll Results: Is racism a big factor in keep minorities down?
Yes 62 34.83%
No 116 65.17%
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:00 AM
 
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Yes and no. There are external factors that have held them down but sometimes racism is used as a crutch or an excuse to stay down. I think the Great Society did them more harm than good in the long run as well.


And plenty do rise above so "down" is by no means a universal condition.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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An estimated 86.8% of black students borrow federal student loans to attend a four-year public college, as opposed to 59.9% of white students,

Black students borrow more than other students for the same degrees, and black borrowers are more likely than white borrowers to drop out without receiving a degree.
How is that related to racism? It sounds like personal choices or the inability to make the cut. Just because one can go to college doesn't make it the right decision. For my son it would have been absolutely wrong, at least at that point in his life. He went to a trade school instead and has been very successful as a result.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:23 AM
 
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Historically, without a doubt. The Black experience in America (and other places) was a nightmare.

Currently, no. Most Black folks are middle class or better. Most harm that affects Black folks tends to come from other Black folks or is self-inflicted.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:36 AM
 
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Minorities that are at the bottom of the totem pole. So not Asians but blacks and hispanics.
But just because they are "at the bottom of the totem pole" does not begin to prove racism has any part of them getting there. The majority of hispanics in america now are likely illegal immigrants or first or second generation from them. Like it or not its true and this can be determined by census demographics and the actual number who were legally admitted.
The barriers to economic equality would have little to do with anyones racism and instead be related to lack of education or failure to learn english, or years of living under the radar.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:51 AM
 
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I hate posts like this. They'll tell you won't accomplish anything in life, and when you do - its because of "affirmative action."
Kinda like when whites being told they only accomplished things because of "white privilege"
Btw most college students have to take out student loans, not just HBC
Not sure you are aware of student loan debt issues that all recent grads deal with.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:56 AM
 
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It depends.
If this racism is unleashed into laws like blocking of certain minorities from central cities, good jobs and universities- then yes.
If it's just something like we have today in USA - then not.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:56 AM
 
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No, it's an excuse

He being racist, hurt my feelings, give me something for free
Instead of pulling their bootstraps and making their selves better, hey claim racist and relie on government handout., racist is a way to not level out the playing field but to give an handicap to one side
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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I am white and did not have the financial means to attend college so stuff your implied notions that whites are all rich so get a free ride through college merely due to their race.
LMAO
One of my posts points out 60% of white students use student loans.

Show proof I'm accusing whites of being rich. I'll be waiting.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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Yes, but the racism is a left-wing thing. For example, US public education system results. Teachers unions make 94% of their political donations to Democrats (source: Open Secrets).

Percent of 12th grade students of each race/ethnicity who are proficient or above, by race/ethnicity group:

Mathematics:

Overall: 26%

Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 33%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 12%
Hispanic: 12%
Black: 7%

Reading:

Overall: 38%


Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 47%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 26%
Hispanic: 23%
Black: 16%

National Assessment of Educational Progress - NAEP - 12th Grade Mathematics and Reading

Does anyone really wish to assert that Hispanic or Black students are actually that much less intelligent than White students? Or is it far more likely that our country's public K-12 education system is the largest, most wide-spread form of institutional racism there is in the U.S., thanks to Democrats?

BTW, it isn't a funding issue. Many school districts (e.g., Camden, NJ, Washington, DC, etc.) spend $20,000+ per student per year and still yield abysmal results....
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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How is that related to racism? It sounds like personal choices or the inability to make the cut. Just because one can go to college doesn't make it the right decision.
Agreed. What made you think the fact that I quoted was about racism? lol

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For my son it would have been absolutely wrong, at least at that point in his life. He went to a trade school instead and has been very successful as a result.
That's the way to do it imo.
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