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Old 08-05-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
The only way you can be fair in your assessment is to say the same thing about Obama and his supporters.

But I'm sure you're not going to do that.
Fair point, but to truly be fair, plenty of Obama supporters were critical of much Obama did or did not do. I was and many other Obama supporters I know were too...

While Obama may not have been sincere, a great many of his voters were

The dynamic is entirely different with Trump and his supporters, in part because so much of what Trump says or does is obviously deserving of criticism if not condemnation, but not for Trump supporters. Not only do they not criticize Trump's bad behavior, but they cheer it on! My theory, a few things but mostly far too much ego that prevents objective thinking.
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Old 08-05-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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the media is hated by both the left and the right and that was way before Trump......stop being clueless. The media is part of the problem.....they pushed for war in 1991 in the Persian Gulf and then again in 2003 in Iraq in their 1 sided coverage and being a mouthpiece for the deep state.




these are Bernie supporters going off on CNN. CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS!......These are liberals Bernie supporters not Trump......the media is hated by both sides. CNN just tries to paint it like it's just Trump supporters which is a lie.....their ratings suck for a reason.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvwgXtjf1TA
I've lost track of the reps I owe you!
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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It ain't the media folks wake up.
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post
the media is hated by both the left and the right and that was way before Trump......stop being clueless. The media is part of the problem.....they pushed for war in 1991 in the Persian Gulf and then again in 2003 in Iraq in their 1 sided coverage and being a mouthpiece for the deep state.




these are Bernie supporters going off on CNN. CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS!......These are liberals Bernie supporters not Trump......the media is hated by both sides. CNN just tries to paint it like it's just Trump supporters which is a lie.....their ratings suck for a reason.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvwgXtjf1TA
Could you please post videos of Bernie screaming "fake news!"?

How about Bernie referring to the media as "enemies of the people!"

Or anything about his campaign meeting with Russians.

Carry on.

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Could you please post videos of Bernie screaming "fake news!"?

How about Bernie referring to the media as "enemies of the people!"

Or anything about his campaign meeting with Russians.

Carry on.

That is becuase Bernie isn't like that .
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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That is becuase Bernie isn't like that .
Exactly

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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the media is hated by both the left and the right and that was way before Trump......stop being clueless. The media is part of the problem.....they pushed for war in 1991 in the Persian Gulf and then again in 2003 in Iraq in their 1 sided coverage and being a mouthpiece for the deep state.




these are Bernie supporters going off on CNN. CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS!......These are liberals Bernie supporters not Trump......the media is hated by both sides. CNN just tries to paint it like it's just Trump supporters which is a lie.....their ratings suck for a reason.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvwgXtjf1TA
That’s a rather broad comment that is unsupported, presidents have been critical of the media in the past but I don’t recall anyone claiming they are the enemy of the state. I expect that from Putin but not from a US president, the media is critical to our democracy.
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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LeBron is an enemy, so Trump should never respect LeBron.
And Trump doesn't use the nerdy language you just used, especially when he's tweeting to an enemy.

Are you serious? You call James an "enemy" and bold face it - twice.

Do you think he is some sort of ISIS combatant?

James (1) never has run ins with the law, (2) works hard at his occupation, and (3) helps out those less fortunate than him.

We can have political disagreements with people without calling them an "enemy." How are we going to accomplish anything as a nation with your thought process that those of differing beliefs are enemies?


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This kind of advice is years past its expiration date.

If the voters has wanted a scripted and "controlled" President, they would have elected Mitt Romney in 2012. They didn't because they don't.

Trump's honest, shoot-from-the-hip style helps him with a lot more people than not. The only ones it hurts him with are those who've long been with "the resistance" anyway. No loss there.

The very worst thing he could do is forget about and abandon what brought him this far. And that sure wasn't script and polish. For once, Americans are enjoying having a real person in the White House.

Keep up the good work, Mr. President!
The problem is that Trump is uncontrolled, he can't even control himself. Shooting off tweets that look like an angry junior high kid wrote it at all hours of the day.

There is a difference between being a no nonsense straight-shooter and being a boorish bully that burns bridges left and right.
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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It’s not a coincidence, he even went after pristine family men like Stephen Curry. He still has PTSD over getting pwned by Obsma at the Correspondsnts Dinner, which has been his motivation for running for the presidency and destroying Obama’s legacy.
That is because Trump is a petty, spiteful, self-serving insecure coward and a very small person. How can a anyone be a good commander in chief if one is not even close to being a good person.
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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Even when they’re winning, the cult knows that in the long haul, they’ll lose.

Hence the fear and loathing that’s at their core.

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/201...-working-class

Trump Supporters Don
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