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Old 08-05-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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The idea that while this may be shady, it is not illegal and that Republicans are no different than Democrats in this regard is wrong on both counts.

It most certainly is illegal and Trump knows it. Hence the insistence that he was not involved in any way, when we all know he was.

And Republicans are by far the more criminally corrupt party and have been for over 50 years.

89 convictions for those in Republican administrations. Iran/Contra co-conspirators pardoned, effectively shutting down that investigation plus a Republican President pardoned for "all crimes."

1 conviction for a Democrat. The Chief of Staff for the Secretary of Agriculture was convicted for not reporting a small consulting fee at a former consulting company.

Despite their never-ending conspiracy theories and constant investigations and hearings, Republicans have only been able to catch two people -- Bill Clinton lying about a blow job and a low level staffer who didn't report a small consulting fee.

89 to 1, Republicans are by far the more criminally corrupt party.
I can only add to that the fact that they have been corrupt since nearly the beginning, at least since Grant's administration.

And the Teapot Dome scandal? All Republican, all the time!

The Republican party has been infested with people on the make from beginning to this very day. That's why people like Trump and his cronies gravitate toward it, that's why Russian mobsters can work with it.

Corruption is hard-wired into the party, like DNA. It's blood is dark money.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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In addition, the Trump campaign was briefed on Russians trying to attack our elections.

Even if this meeting was innocent, it should have been reported.

It wasn't.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Because their spin didn't work last time this came up. Here they are trying to spin it a different way hoping their idiot foll.. viewers don't remember what went down last round.

There are some factual errors/ommissions in the article, it is no wonder the right calls them fake news.

what were the federal laws violated here? Trump or anybody in his camp didn't publish to the public the DNC and Podesta's emails.......what laws were violated here? because a Russian had gossip on Hillary and told JR? lol
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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I can only add to that the fact that they have been corrupt since nearly the beginning, at least since Grant's administration.

And the Teapot Dome scandal? All Republican, all the time!

The Republican party has been infested with people on the make from beginning to this very day. That's why people like Trump and his cronies gravitate toward it, that's why Russian mobsters can work with it.

Corruption is hard-wired into the party, like DNA. It's blood is dark money.
It sure looks like it.

Despite the Republicans constantly trying to smear Democrats with one conspiracy theory after another, they always seem to be the ones involved in nefarious activities.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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I guess Trump should have just paid the Russians to create a fake dossier about Clinton, pay to have it distributed to the media, and pay the media to broadcast it 27/7. No one seems to have an issue with that.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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In addition, the Trump campaign was briefed on Russians trying to attack our elections.

Even if this meeting was innocent, it should have been reported.

It wasn't.





again, what federal law says you have to report it? ....is kinda hard to take the DNC emails hacking seriously when the DNC didn't want the FBI to investigate their servers and get to the bottom of the hacking....'til this day NOBODY in government has provided any evidence that the Russians did it. Wikileaks have been on the record saying it wasn't the Russians and they have a better track record of telling the truth than our heads in our intel agencies.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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Why are we rehashing old news? This story dominated the media last year when it came out and we knew Don Jr took a meeting with a Russian lawyer that said she had dirt on the Clintons. Is taking a meeting illegal now? Hillary can pay Russians for opposition research but Don Jr can’t take a meeting looking for dirt in his opponent?

I still believe this story was the one that was supposed to get Trump to step down last year. Now they are bringing it back. Do people really believe Don Jr was the mastermind of the whole Russia collusion narrative. They still have nothing
First he didn't know about it. Then he did. Then it was about adoptions, then it was about Clinton dirt. Ask Trump why he's bringing it up now. Maybe because they're trying to hide something? Nah, that can't be it.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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what were the federal laws violated here? Trump or anybody in his camp didn't publish to the public the DNC and Podesta's emails.......what laws were violated here? because a Russian had gossip on Hillary and told JR? lol
This information is readily available.

Aside from the laws, Trump called on Russia to hack those emails and they started to do so within 24 hours.

Roger Stone was communicating with the Russian entities involved in hacking.

Trump carried on about the Russian hacked emails as if they were the Pentagon Papers.

They were not. As evidenced by Sessions not bringing a single charge against Clinton or any of the Democrats.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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So its gone from 'it never happened' to it did happen but "it was legal". Lie after lie. Cover up after cover up.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Because their spin didn't work last time this came up. Here they are trying to spin it a different way hoping their idiot foll.. viewers don't remember what went down last round.

There are some factual errors/ommissions in the article, it is no wonder the right calls them fake news.
Exaxtly.

It’s like, “Alright let’s try this again from another angle.” Now they’re bring out the Schiff again to drum up the hype. It’s all too predictable but the zombies flock to it still.
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