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Old 08-07-2018, 08:34 PM
Status: "Moldy Tater Gangrene, even before Moscow Marge." (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If anything, modern technology and widespread access to it makes the First Amendment LESS of an issue now than in 1988, for entry barriers into the media/mass communication market were IMMENSELY higher back in those days.

Today, nothing prevents InfoWars from having its own server, hosting its own videos. Especially if information storage is so cheap these days that it's competitive with water in price (ok, an exaggeration, but you get my point). IOW, the cost of entry into media is very low these days, unlike the 1980s when the technology dictated the barriers of entry for individuals was MUCH higher than in the Digital Age).
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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The big problem with America is that, American psyche has historically been afraid of toxic small cringe fringe groups. From the KKK, to today's SJWS. Such groups even small have a lot of power, and use their small numbers to be louder than the largest group. Alex Jones should have never been deplatformed. Even though I disagree with his rhetoric 100% of the time. The question is this. Did Alex Jones violate YouTube, Google, Facebook and Apple terms of service. Or did these San Francisco Bay Area companies just felt it was in their best interest to deplatform him due to his rhetoric.

Also Social Media, Media, Publishing, Academia is controlled by the left, and most notably controlled by the cringe fringe Social Justice Warriors, who have infiltrated such industries and turning them upside down to be more accommodating for people who feel they are oppressed. The SJW left does not like Alex Jones. With Apple and Google kicking this guy off air, for the SJW, this event is a huge victory. Americans needs to stop being afraid of SJW's, Feminists, Alt Right factions.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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InfoWars App Surges Past CNN After Orwellian Deplatforming
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/infowars-a...
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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...A Twitter poll, which has no scientific rigor. Anyone with an account can respond from anywhere. InfoWars could direct its readers to go there and throw it in his favor. Any site could. I legitimately have several Twitter accounts and could use them all to vote in this poll. Further research would be needed to see what people think.
A NYT poll, about banning Jones on Twitter.... 80% said, HELL NO!
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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You can have the greatest website every made but if no one visits it, it does not matter. Lots of people use youtube as a marketing tool for their paid content.

So it is both platform and content or why use youtube to begin with? For Jones youtube is a way to draw in subscribers to his website.
That's if you wish to accept status quo and say that YouTube is the best and only way to market forever.

Why dont we use corded phones, cassette tapes or even CDs really now? Times change. People innovated, other people changed their habits to adopt the new things. Heck, the Internet itself came along and changed things greatly.

Were these changes easy? Nope. The Internet is much different than when I started 24 or so years ago. I have fiber internet instead of a 14.4k modem, for one.

YouTube is simply a megaphone. You don't have to use it. They dont have to let you use it. You can find one, build one, convince someone to build one. But unless people try, there wont automatically be new megaphones.

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Old 08-07-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA5nUFfkHCc


watching the live discussion now.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:51 PM
 
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A NYT poll, about banning Jones on Twitter.... 80% said, HELL NO!
Repeating it doesn't make it any more scientifically valid. It could be true. A Twitter poll does not prove it due to the way it is structured, though.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:56 PM
Status: "Moldy Tater Gangrene, even before Moscow Marge." (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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A NYT poll, about banning Jones on Twitter.... 80% said, HELL NO!

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Repeating it doesn't make it any more scientifically valid. It could be true. A Twitter poll does not prove it due to the way it is structured, though.

Yep. Credible polls are designed so as to get representative samples of the population. Internet polls basically are self-selecting. Credible polls also are difficult to impossible to "flood" like youtube video votes.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yep. Credible polls are designed so as to get representative samples of the population. Internet polls basically are self-selecting. Credible polls also are difficult to impossible to "flood" like youtube video votes.
It isn't like it was a FOX News poll, or an INFOWARS poll.
It was the NYT!
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Conservatives are not being hypocritical on this because they admit the companies have a right to do it. That doesn't mean the site is free from criticism.
No, this isn't true.

If it was they wouldn't be complaining in the P&OC forum. They would be complaining in the Consumers forum and trying to sway purchasing power away from companies they disagree with on issues.

Natural rights are absolute. All owners have the right to sell their goods/services under any condition they wish.

That goes for bakers and wedding cake as well as social media platforms.

If you don't have principles...you have nothing.
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