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John McCain, Colin Powell, Allen West, Bush, horrible example.
Many members of Congress and politicians are, yup you guessed it, veterans.
Wow serving your country isn’t so bad after all now is it?
I think it's great to serve your country! I specifically mentioned wealthy Republican politicians, maybe I wasn't clear, sending their own kids and grandchildren. My husband is a huge fan of Colin Powell, hubby served in the Gulf War so... .
I should have been more specific. By bowing down I mean those who worship the military and those who serve, believing that a someone who serves or who served should get special treatment at all times. Ignoring anything bad the military or someone in the military does. That is what I mean by bowing down.
Life would be better without that chip on your shoulder, bud.
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In my families experience, the military is one of the few places where race is not a major factor. They don't put up with the nonsense of racism/bigotry, segregation, etc.
Nor you can walk around with a racial chip on your shoulder.
Most of the black people and almost every brown person we have known in a military capacity is at least moderate, if not conservative. So while the one person said 2/3 vs. 1/3, I'd say it is even higher, likely 3/4 or more right to moderate, vs. liberal.
The military makes you think with logical and be pragmatic, You learn to overcome obstacles, not be stopped by them.
Adaptation is another, along with learning how to improvise, all more "can do", instead of "cant do".
This is not to say liberals cannot succeed in such environments, but learning the aforementioned tends to change naive theory with practical applications to see the world how it really is, not how you wish it to be.
Lastly, it tends to mature those who otherwise might be a basement dweller at their parents house.
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Liberalism is far more inline with the military than Conservatism is. Using the very example in your argument. You arent allowed to discriminate in the military , but conservatism argues that you should be able to.
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Liberals don't know what "wasteful" defense spending is, that's the problem. They claim to want to cut military spending by huge percentages and then fail to provide any reasoning as to why or how that would actually work. There are people who study defense as their full-time jobs... people with PhDs, people who have committed their entire careers to studying the threats that face this country and not a single one of them believes that we should make significant cuts to defense.
Not a single one ? You may disagree with the people with PhDs that argue for defense cuts, but they certainly exist.
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As for your comment regarding "forced patriotism", it is hard to commit your life to your country if you do not believe in your country, and do not feel patriotic for it. Patriotism and discipline are integral to military life as they are necessary for cohesiveness and efficiency.
No, he isnt talking about military service. He is talking about people claiming you must stand for the anthem, yell USA every 15 minutes, and wear a flag as a toga to prove you love your country.
Most 19-20 year olds I have known couldn't care less about right or left.
Most 19-20 year olds don't have the gumption to join the military either!
...or move out of their parents basement
or get a job
or....list any number of other sad things young people seem to have an aversion to.
People in the military tend to be right leaning politically.
Is that the truth or do you have a differing opinion on people that have or are serving?
Thanks
"People in the military tend to be right leaning politically. "
I really detest people making such "wide brush" generality claims.
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