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Old 08-07-2018, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Remember when we paid to train and arm the people who would eventually bring down the WTC towers?

Now that was tax money well spent!

Well, hell, Chinese soldiers are trained with American soldiers so what's the big whoop?

Wait....people do know that, right?

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I know. I just wished more people cared about things like this.

The fact that it's Al Qaeda we're working with and not some other terror group makes the irony that much richer.
They care when it's the administration they didn't vote for doing these kinds of things. People will justify anything in order to remain loyal to their party of choice. It's insane to me how brainwashed people sound.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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And? He's ended many things that were going on before him, how about ending some of our asinine involvements around the world of no benefit to the US like Afghanistan, Yemen, inane incursions in Africa, etc.?
Stop making this partisan. I don't support Trump.

Support for terrorism exists because of bi-partisanship in congress, bi-partisanship that Americans don't question.

It's time you look at your government and decide if what they are doing is morally ok, because if you don't speak up, nothing will change.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Because we all know that the Middle East was a veritable Garden of Eden before Trump, with unicorns and live teddy bears frolicking amongst the lovely fields of daisies and clover.
No one said that. Not one person.


Trump is continuing Obama's policies in Yemen only on steroids. Neither were or are right.


The 24-hour Newsfotainment industry doesn't show this stuff because it doesn't get ratings.


I pay way more attention to it since Pknopp started hammering on it incessantly.


In the past, I just assumed these were things our government had to do to keep us safe. But I don't think our meddling in the ME does a damn thing that's positive.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Why, here is why.


Media still saving some scraps for Obama's legacy.


2015


"The Obama White House insists Yemen is a successful model for its counterterrorism strategy, even as international military operations escalated there overnight and President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi was forced into hiding."


Obama's ego would never let him accept his actions resulted in failure..... 500 mil$$ lost on solyndra was claimed to a be 'a good investment' and that is in retrospect!!!!!


didn't follow up on the red line he drew so as not to upset putin and that was called , political courage!


Want genocide!!!!!!


Obama sat on his hands, gave isis time to expand and recruit by taking the heat off them, claiming they were the jv team. That small percent of islam wiped out the majority of christians in the middle east. Call that killing spree whatever you want, thousands of people died because Obama sat on his hands. Good case to try Obama for genocide.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Stop making this partisan. I don't support Trump.

Support for terrorism exists because of bi-partisanship in congress, bi-partisanship that Americans don't question.

It's time you look at your government and decide if what they are doing is morally ok, because if you don't speak up, nothing will change.
Let me take it one step further. It's time thinking people stopped simply accepting everything and started questioning everything the government does.

Party doesn't matter - both are wolves in sheep's clothing.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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It's being covered up and ignored by the MSM because Yemen is another Obama/Hillary war of choice that turned to **** like everything else that Obama put his hands on.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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Obama sat on his hands, gave isis time to expand and recruit by taking the heat off them, claiming they were the jv team. That small percent of islam wiped out the majority of christians in the middle east. Call that killing spree whatever you want, thousands of people died because Obama sat on his hands. Good case to try Obama for genocide.
This is conspiratorial but I'm convinced that isis was encouraged and armed by Americans in Iraq (to Syria) in a way to overthrow Assad and form permanent military bases in Syria. Syria has been earmarked for regime change as early as Bush, and probably earlier. Assad is a friend of Iran and Russia and an enemy of Israel which makes him person non grata.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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This is conspiratorial but I'm convinced that isis was encouraged and armed by Americans in Iraq (to Syria) in a way to overthrow Assad and form permanent military bases in Syria. Syria has been earmarked for regime change as early as Bush, and probably earlier. Assad is a friend of Iran and Russia and an enemy of Israel which makes him person non grata.
It's no conspriacy. We admitted we armed them out of Libya.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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Hmm, I wonder what you guys think of this?
Well, here's what I think of this:

Your compassion is bull****.
You're compassionate only when you can dig up a situation which can be twisted to support your radical ideology.
WHY AREN"T YOU SCREAMING TO HIGH HEAVEN ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WHO HAVE BEEN GASSED, STARVED, AND BARREL-BOMBED TO DEATH BY THE ASSAD REGIME, RUSSIANS AND IRANIANS??? It's because those mass murderers are not the in the group that you love to hate.


Get off your high horse. You're a phony.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Well, here's what I think of this:

Your compassion is bull****.
You're compassionate only when you can dig up a situation which can be twisted to support your radical ideology.
WHY AREN"T YOU SCREAMING TO HIGH HEAVEN ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WHO HAVE BEEN GASSED, STARVED, AND BARREL-BOMBED TO DEATH BY THE ASSAD REGIME, RUSSIANS AND IRANIANS??? It's because those mass murderers are not the in the group that you love to hate.


Get off your high horse. You're a phony.
Your anger is telling. Confronting someone else’s crimes is much harder than confronting your own.

I never supported the Iranian government, but their crimes not only get coverage, but our far lesser than ours, Yemen is only the top of the iceberg.

The crimes that your country commit should be more important than the crimes of others, you clean your house first, that is how you change the world.

The first step to stopping terrorism is for us to stop participating in it, otherwise our words mean nothing.
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